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The blood trail of Islam in Europe

Countries with higher Muslim population

*All of these countries except for Spain, have an Islamic population above 4%. Spain is in the 2-4% range.

Turkey - lots of attacks happening all the time
France - there have been numerous attacks including 2 in Paris this year
UK - 7/7, Glasgow bombings and the Lee Rigby incident
Germany - another place with numerous attacks over the years
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Mostar car bombings, US embassy attack in Sarajevo, Zvornik police station attack
Russia - not included in the map but in Europe partially and has a fairly moderate Islamic population in Moscow due to an influx of migrants - Moscow theatre attacks, Grozny bombing and clashes
Spain - Madrid training bombings
Netherlands - Theo Van Gogh murder by Jihadist
Sweden - Stockholm bombing not that long ago
Bulgaria - airport bombing killing a bus full of Jewish tourists
Belgium - Jewish Museum shooting
Denmark - Copenhagen attacks
Cyprus - 2012 terrorist plot

Countries with lower Muslim population

*All of these countries have an Islamic population of less than 1% in relation to its total population.

Poland - no serious attacks
Latvia - no serious attacks
Lithuania - no serious attacks
Romania - no serious attacks
Czech Republic - no serious attacks
Slovakia - no serious attack
Portugal - no serious attack
Finland - no serious attack
Iceland - no serious attack
Hungary - no serious attack
Armenia - no serious attack
Malta - no serious attack

Countries with highest Muslim population in Europe

*All of these countries have Islamic populations above 50% - Bosnia and Herzegovina is in the 40-50% region - this country as illustrated above has fallen victim to numerous attacks.

Turkey - numerous attacks
Kosovo - reports of Jihadism having roots here, attempts to poison the water supply and home to Islamic State supporters and fighters
Albania - see above

Summary

It really isn't hard to work out is it? The countries with the highest populations have Jihadist roots and people actively supporting Islamic extremism. They also have known Islamic State supporters in the country and intelligence suggests that these countries also home extremists. Kosovo's capital for example, is known as the Jihad capital of Europe.

Secondary, you have the countries with a high Muslim population but much lower than those stated above. These countries have been attacked, are countries that are claiming to be tolerant of Islam and are also likely to have numerous sleeper cells in the countries due to an influx of Islamic migrants who will help the ideology spread within.

Finally, you have the European nations with an Islamic population below 1%. These countries have not been attacked yet still often contribute to NATO's military efforts. If intervention in the Middle East is the reason for these attacks, as many delusional people like to point out, why aren't these countries being attacked? The reason is that these countries have much lower Islamic populations and are therefore able to stem the tide of Islamic extremism and stop attacks. Also, external attacks like 9/11 are far harder to pull off and are less likely. Islamic extremists have usually and often go the internal route when carrying out the attack as its easier for them to coordinate an attack this way without being detected.

In short:

1) High Islamic populations in Europe lead to an acceptance of outdated Islamic practices and the rise of Jihadism and terrorism - almost turning a blind eye to it

2) Countries with a significant Islamic population lead to countries that are at risk of extremism and attacks like we saw in Paris yesterday - they also lead to social instability with social conflict between the populace on these issues leading to tension and this detracts from the real issues. As the population grows in these countries, these countries are being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household.

3) Countries with a low to non-existent Islamic population have either not been attacked or not attacked on a significant scale to even be recognised. These countries are not being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household as with the nations above.Its quite clear that the best thing is to not allow Islam into Europe because the stats tell us that as it spreads things get much worse. The trend is there for everyone to see.

The UK's quality of life has also slipped since the influx of mass immigration. Countries like Sweden with a mass influx of migrants are predicted to be third world by 2030 according to leading organisations, which is no surprise if they continue to pussyfoot around these issues whilst trying to take the moral high ground.There is no moral high ground to be taken. There are strategic measures to be taken. We must be bold and brave, not cower and give in to political correctness because apathy, tolerance of the intolerant and weakness is often what gets you killed.

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You do realise that countless of lives are lost everyday in the Middle East. Innocent people who are coming to Europe to flee the terrorists.
Bombings in Iraq have become so normalised now that people don't even blink their eyes at it. Look at what happened yesterday in Lebanon. I know it hasn't gotten as much coverage. For them,these bombing and suicide attacks are a daily part of life. They are not the enemy
Cultural enrichment ftw :awesome:
Original post by Fidus Achates
Countries with higher Muslim population

*All of these countries except for Spain, have an Islamic population above 4%. Spain is in the 2-4% range.

Turkey - lots of attacks happening all the time
France - there have been numerous attacks including 2 in Paris this year
UK - 7/7, Glasgow bombings and the Lee Rigby incident
Germany - another place with numerous attacks over the years
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Mostar car bombings, US embassy attack in Sarajevo, Zvornik police station attack
Russia - not included in the map but in Europe partially and has a fairly moderate Islamic population in Moscow due to an influx of migrants - Moscow theatre attacks, Grozny bombing and clashes
Spain - Madrid training bombings
Netherlands - Theo Van Gogh murder by Jihadist
Sweden - Stockholm bombing not that long ago
Bulgaria - airport bombing killing a bus full of Jewish tourists
Belgium - Jewish Museum shooting
Denmark - Copenhagen attacks
Cyprus - 2012 terrorist plot

Countries with lower Muslim population

*All of these countries have an Islamic population of less than 1% in relation to its total population.

Poland - no serious attacks
Latvia - no serious attacks
Lithuania - no serious attacks
Romania - no serious attacks
Czech Republic - no serious attacks
Slovakia - no serious attack
Portugal - no serious attack
Finland - no serious attack
Iceland - no serious attack
Hungary - no serious attack
Armenia - no serious attack
Malta - no serious attack

Countries with highest Muslim population in Europe

*All of these countries have Islamic populations above 50% - Bosnia and Herzegovina is in the 40-50% region - this country as illustrated above has fallen victim to numerous attacks.

Turkey - numerous attacks
Kosovo - reports of Jihadism having roots here, attempts to poison the water supply and home to Islamic State supporters and fighters
Albania - see above

Summary

It really isn't hard to work out is it? The countries with the highest populations have Jihadist roots and people actively supporting Islamic extremism. They also have known Islamic State supporters in the country and intelligence suggests that these countries also home extremists. Kosovo's capital for example, is known as the Jihad capital of Europe.

Secondary, you have the countries with a high Muslim population but much lower than those stated above. These countries have been attacked, are countries that are claiming to be tolerant of Islam and are also likely to have numerous sleeper cells in the countries due to an influx of Islamic migrants who will help the ideology spread within.

Finally, you have the European nations with an Islamic population below 1%. These countries have not been attacked yet still often contribute to NATO's military efforts. If intervention in the Middle East is the reason for these attacks, as many delusional people like to point out, why aren't these countries being attacked? The reason is that these countries have much lower Islamic populations and are therefore able to stem the tide of Islamic extremism and stop attacks. Also, external attacks like 9/11 are far harder to pull off and are less likely. Islamic extremists have usually and often go the internal route when carrying out the attack as its easier for them to coordinate an attack this way without being detected.

In short:

1) High Islamic populations in Europe lead to an acceptance of outdated Islamic practices and the rise of Jihadism and terrorism - almost turning a blind eye to it

2) Countries with a significant Islamic population lead to countries that are at risk of extremism and attacks like we saw in Paris yesterday - they also lead to social instability with social conflict between the populace on these issues leading to tension and this detracts from the real issues. As the population grows in these countries, these countries are being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household.

3) Countries with a low to non-existent Islamic population have either not been attacked or not attacked on a significant scale to even be recognised. These countries are not being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household as with the nations above.Its quite clear that the best thing is to not allow Islam into Europe because the stats tell us that as it spreads things get much worse. The trend is there for everyone to see.

The UK's quality of life has also slipped since the influx of mass immigration. Countries like Sweden with a mass influx of migrants are predicted to be third world by 2030 according to leading organisations, which is no surprise if they continue to pussyfoot around these issues whilst trying to take the moral high ground.There is no moral high ground to be taken. There are strategic measures to be taken. We must be bold and brave, not cower and give in to political correctness because apathy, tolerance of the intolerant and weakness is often what gets you killed.


I would be more specific with places like Germany and Turkey.

If you want to see if a correlation exists between number of Muslims and Islamic threat, I would compare population size if each country and then take into account the percentage which are muslims. Which country has the higher density of attacks? What nationality are the Muslims which make up each country (French Algerians will be different from British Bangladesh muslims) what we're the political events surrounding each attack, what triggers?

These are some questions which will help to paint a more detailed picture. To see what correlations do and don't exist.

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Europe needs Jan III Sobieski again.
If Muslims have left a blood trail in Europe, the West have left an ocean of blood in the Middle East.
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Reply 6
Original post by Fidus Achates
Countries with higher Muslim population

*All of these countries except for Spain, have an Islamic population above 4%. Spain is in the 2-4% range.

Turkey - lots of attacks happening all the time
France - there have been numerous attacks including 2 in Paris this year
UK - 7/7, Glasgow bombings and the Lee Rigby incident
Germany - another place with numerous attacks over the years
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Mostar car bombings, US embassy attack in Sarajevo, Zvornik police station attack
Russia - not included in the map but in Europe partially and has a fairly moderate Islamic population in Moscow due to an influx of migrants - Moscow theatre attacks, Grozny bombing and clashes
Spain - Madrid training bombings
Netherlands - Theo Van Gogh murder by Jihadist
Sweden - Stockholm bombing not that long ago
Bulgaria - airport bombing killing a bus full of Jewish tourists
Belgium - Jewish Museum shooting
Denmark - Copenhagen attacks
Cyprus - 2012 terrorist plot

Countries with lower Muslim population

*All of these countries have an Islamic population of less than 1% in relation to its total population.

Poland - no serious attacks
Latvia - no serious attacks
Lithuania - no serious attacks
Romania - no serious attacks
Czech Republic - no serious attacks
Slovakia - no serious attack
Portugal - no serious attack
Finland - no serious attack
Iceland - no serious attack
Hungary - no serious attack
Armenia - no serious attack
Malta - no serious attack

Countries with highest Muslim population in Europe

*All of these countries have Islamic populations above 50% - Bosnia and Herzegovina is in the 40-50% region - this country as illustrated above has fallen victim to numerous attacks.

Turkey - numerous attacks
Kosovo - reports of Jihadism having roots here, attempts to poison the water supply and home to Islamic State supporters and fighters
Albania - see above

Summary

It really isn't hard to work out is it? The countries with the highest populations have Jihadist roots and people actively supporting Islamic extremism. They also have known Islamic State supporters in the country and intelligence suggests that these countries also home extremists. Kosovo's capital for example, is known as the Jihad capital of Europe.

Secondary, you have the countries with a high Muslim population but much lower than those stated above. These countries have been attacked, are countries that are claiming to be tolerant of Islam and are also likely to have numerous sleeper cells in the countries due to an influx of Islamic migrants who will help the ideology spread within.

Finally, you have the European nations with an Islamic population below 1%. These countries have not been attacked yet still often contribute to NATO's military efforts. If intervention in the Middle East is the reason for these attacks, as many delusional people like to point out, why aren't these countries being attacked? The reason is that these countries have much lower Islamic populations and are therefore able to stem the tide of Islamic extremism and stop attacks. Also, external attacks like 9/11 are far harder to pull off and are less likely. Islamic extremists have usually and often go the internal route when carrying out the attack as its easier for them to coordinate an attack this way without being detected.

In short:

1) High Islamic populations in Europe lead to an acceptance of outdated Islamic practices and the rise of Jihadism and terrorism - almost turning a blind eye to it

2) Countries with a significant Islamic population lead to countries that are at risk of extremism and attacks like we saw in Paris yesterday - they also lead to social instability with social conflict between the populace on these issues leading to tension and this detracts from the real issues. As the population grows in these countries, these countries are being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household.

3) Countries with a low to non-existent Islamic population have either not been attacked or not attacked on a significant scale to even be recognised. These countries are not being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household as with the nations above.Its quite clear that the best thing is to not allow Islam into Europe because the stats tell us that as it spreads things get much worse. The trend is there for everyone to see.

The UK's quality of life has also slipped since the influx of mass immigration. Countries like Sweden with a mass influx of migrants are predicted to be third world by 2030 according to leading organisations, which is no surprise if they continue to pussyfoot around these issues whilst trying to take the moral high ground.There is no moral high ground to be taken. There are strategic measures to be taken. We must be bold and brave, not cower and give in to political correctness because apathy, tolerance of the intolerant and weakness is often what gets you killed.


It makes me sad, to see how much Europe has changed following the influx of Islam. What can be done to destroy this vermin?
Reply 7
You forgot to mention to muslim peodophile gangs in Rotheram and Oxford. Muslim men molesting young white British girls and boys. over 90% of the cases are by filthy sick muslims
Original post by AlifunArnab
If Muslims have left a blood trail in Europe, The West have left an ocean of blood in the Middle East.


A rather ambiguous statement really. Most conflict in the middle east is Sunni v Shia, extremism v moderate or tribalism. This has little to do with the west. Of course the west is at fault on some issues, but to simply to dismiss it all as the fault of the west is not only inaccurate, but wilful ignorance.
Original post by AlifunArnab
If Muslims have left a blood trail in Europe, The West have left an ocean of blood in the Middle East.


Each would have to be looked at individually.

In the middle east, terror attack are not correlated with western civilians. They are not caused by Western civilians. But by armies and are therefore political in nature.

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Hardly anyone cares to admit it, but religion is dangerous. I don't see why people in the 21st century where we have an extremely sophisticated understanding of the world people are still following ancient holy scriptures written thousands of years ago.
'Yeah but....' (Resorts to Whataboutery and Tu Quoque fallacy)
None of the comments dispute the OP, they just deflect.
Original post by Fidus Achates
Countries with higher Muslim population

*All of these countries except for Spain, have an Islamic population above 4%. Spain is in the 2-4% range.

Turkey - lots of attacks happening all the time
France - there have been numerous attacks including 2 in Paris this year
UK - 7/7, Glasgow bombings and the Lee Rigby incident
Germany - another place with numerous attacks over the years
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Mostar car bombings, US embassy attack in Sarajevo, Zvornik police station attack
Russia - not included in the map but in Europe partially and has a fairly moderate Islamic population in Moscow due to an influx of migrants - Moscow theatre attacks, Grozny bombing and clashes
Spain - Madrid training bombings
Netherlands - Theo Van Gogh murder by Jihadist
Sweden - Stockholm bombing not that long ago
Bulgaria - airport bombing killing a bus full of Jewish tourists
Belgium - Jewish Museum shooting
Denmark - Copenhagen attacks
Cyprus - 2012 terrorist plot

Countries with lower Muslim population

*All of these countries have an Islamic population of less than 1% in relation to its total population.

Poland - no serious attacks
Latvia - no serious attacks
Lithuania - no serious attacks
Romania - no serious attacks
Czech Republic - no serious attacks
Slovakia - no serious attack
Portugal - no serious attack
Finland - no serious attack
Iceland - no serious attack
Hungary - no serious attack
Armenia - no serious attack
Malta - no serious attack

Countries with highest Muslim population in Europe

*All of these countries have Islamic populations above 50% - Bosnia and Herzegovina is in the 40-50% region - this country as illustrated above has fallen victim to numerous attacks.

Turkey - numerous attacks
Kosovo - reports of Jihadism having roots here, attempts to poison the water supply and home to Islamic State supporters and fighters
Albania - see above

Summary

It really isn't hard to work out is it? The countries with the highest populations have Jihadist roots and people actively supporting Islamic extremism. They also have known Islamic State supporters in the country and intelligence suggests that these countries also home extremists. Kosovo's capital for example, is known as the Jihad capital of Europe.

Secondary, you have the countries with a high Muslim population but much lower than those stated above. These countries have been attacked, are countries that are claiming to be tolerant of Islam and are also likely to have numerous sleeper cells in the countries due to an influx of Islamic migrants who will help the ideology spread within.

Finally, you have the European nations with an Islamic population below 1%. These countries have not been attacked yet still often contribute to NATO's military efforts. If intervention in the Middle East is the reason for these attacks, as many delusional people like to point out, why aren't these countries being attacked? The reason is that these countries have much lower Islamic populations and are therefore able to stem the tide of Islamic extremism and stop attacks. Also, external attacks like 9/11 are far harder to pull off and are less likely. Islamic extremists have usually and often go the internal route when carrying out the attack as its easier for them to coordinate an attack this way without being detected.

In short:

1) High Islamic populations in Europe lead to an acceptance of outdated Islamic practices and the rise of Jihadism and terrorism - almost turning a blind eye to it

2) Countries with a significant Islamic population lead to countries that are at risk of extremism and attacks like we saw in Paris yesterday - they also lead to social instability with social conflict between the populace on these issues leading to tension and this detracts from the real issues. As the population grows in these countries, these countries are being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household.

3) Countries with a low to non-existent Islamic population have either not been attacked or not attacked on a significant scale to even be recognised. These countries are not being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household as with the nations above.Its quite clear that the best thing is to not allow Islam into Europe because the stats tell us that as it spreads things get much worse. The trend is there for everyone to see.

The UK's quality of life has also slipped since the influx of mass immigration. Countries like Sweden with a mass influx of migrants are predicted to be third world by 2030 according to leading organisations, which is no surprise if they continue to pussyfoot around these issues whilst trying to take the moral high ground.There is no moral high ground to be taken. There are strategic measures to be taken. We must be bold and brave, not cower and give in to political correctness because apathy, tolerance of the intolerant and weakness is often what gets you killed.


Very good post. We have been running towards a cliff, and before the cliff there have been numerous big, flashing signs warning of it, but we continued on and now we are at the very edge of it, and yet many are still happy to keep running, their hands covering their eyes.
Lazy research. Population size is much more of a decisive factor than the religious population.

Furthermore, all the countries you listed aren't solely suffering from Islamic fueled violence. You are more interested in spreading a hate message akin to what a militant in Syria would wish for.

The Terrorist acts you have anchored over each country, one of them was a PLOT. Desperate mockery. Look into FBI records or a crime unit's record and you will see a multitude of foiled attempts to cause political disruption.

Lastly, some of the tragedies listed... they are more 10 years old?! Oh and how about you report that Muslim who stole something from that grocery store in that corner in Europe?

Terrorism has no religion. You like to terrorize, you will want follow it. What comes in the way are just attributes to describe terrorism. A much better conclusion from your "research" would be anyone with 2 hands and legs who can travel are dangerous.
Original post by queen-bee
You do realise that countless of lives are lost everyday in the Middle East. Innocent people who are coming to Europe to flee the terrorists.

Bombings in Iraq have become so normalised now that people don't even blink their eyes at it. Look at what happened yesterday in Lebanon. I know it hasn't gotten as much coverage. For them,these bombing and suicide attacks are a daily part of life. They are not the enemy


All of those bombings are to do with:

a) religious conflict
b) religious political conflict
c) conflicts between Islamic factions
Original post by Fidus Achates
Countries with higher Muslim population

*All of these countries except for Spain, have an Islamic population above 4%. Spain is in the 2-4% range.

Turkey - lots of attacks happening all the time
France - there have been numerous attacks including 2 in Paris this year
UK - 7/7, Glasgow bombings and the Lee Rigby incident
Germany - another place with numerous attacks over the years
Bosnia and Herzegovina - Mostar car bombings, US embassy attack in Sarajevo, Zvornik police station attack
Russia - not included in the map but in Europe partially and has a fairly moderate Islamic population in Moscow due to an influx of migrants - Moscow theatre attacks, Grozny bombing and clashes
Spain - Madrid training bombings
Netherlands - Theo Van Gogh murder by Jihadist
Sweden - Stockholm bombing not that long ago
Bulgaria - airport bombing killing a bus full of Jewish tourists
Belgium - Jewish Museum shooting
Denmark - Copenhagen attacks
Cyprus - 2012 terrorist plot

Countries with lower Muslim population

*All of these countries have an Islamic population of less than 1% in relation to its total population.

Poland - no serious attacks
Latvia - no serious attacks
Lithuania - no serious attacks
Romania - no serious attacks
Czech Republic - no serious attacks
Slovakia - no serious attack
Portugal - no serious attack
Finland - no serious attack
Iceland - no serious attack
Hungary - no serious attack
Armenia - no serious attack
Malta - no serious attack

Countries with highest Muslim population in Europe

*All of these countries have Islamic populations above 50% - Bosnia and Herzegovina is in the 40-50% region - this country as illustrated above has fallen victim to numerous attacks.

Turkey - numerous attacks
Kosovo - reports of Jihadism having roots here, attempts to poison the water supply and home to Islamic State supporters and fighters
Albania - see above

Summary

It really isn't hard to work out is it? The countries with the highest populations have Jihadist roots and people actively supporting Islamic extremism. They also have known Islamic State supporters in the country and intelligence suggests that these countries also home extremists. Kosovo's capital for example, is known as the Jihad capital of Europe.

Secondary, you have the countries with a high Muslim population but much lower than those stated above. These countries have been attacked, are countries that are claiming to be tolerant of Islam and are also likely to have numerous sleeper cells in the countries due to an influx of Islamic migrants who will help the ideology spread within.

Finally, you have the European nations with an Islamic population below 1%. These countries have not been attacked yet still often contribute to NATO's military efforts. If intervention in the Middle East is the reason for these attacks, as many delusional people like to point out, why aren't these countries being attacked? The reason is that these countries have much lower Islamic populations and are therefore able to stem the tide of Islamic extremism and stop attacks. Also, external attacks like 9/11 are far harder to pull off and are less likely. Islamic extremists have usually and often go the internal route when carrying out the attack as its easier for them to coordinate an attack this way without being detected.

In short:

1) High Islamic populations in Europe lead to an acceptance of outdated Islamic practices and the rise of Jihadism and terrorism - almost turning a blind eye to it

2) Countries with a significant Islamic population lead to countries that are at risk of extremism and attacks like we saw in Paris yesterday - they also lead to social instability with social conflict between the populace on these issues leading to tension and this detracts from the real issues. As the population grows in these countries, these countries are being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household.

3) Countries with a low to non-existent Islamic population have either not been attacked or not attacked on a significant scale to even be recognised. These countries are not being victimised with outdated practices like FGM, rape gangs and domestic violence within the household as with the nations above.Its quite clear that the best thing is to not allow Islam into Europe because the stats tell us that as it spreads things get much worse. The trend is there for everyone to see.

The UK's quality of life has also slipped since the influx of mass immigration. Countries like Sweden with a mass influx of migrants are predicted to be third world by 2030 according to leading organisations, which is no surprise if they continue to pussyfoot around these issues whilst trying to take the moral high ground.There is no moral high ground to be taken. There are strategic measures to be taken. We must be bold and brave, not cower and give in to political correctness because apathy, tolerance of the intolerant and weakness is often what gets you killed.


Countries with no attacks are relatively poorer and those people want to go to the countries where there are attacks. Diversity works is all i get from this.
Original post by Fidus Achates
All of those bombings are to do with:

a) religious conflict
b) religious political conflict
c) conflicts between Islamic factions


What about western intervention in the Middle East. That's also part of the problem
Original post by queen-bee
What about western intervention in the Middle East. That's also part of the problem


No, its not. If that was the case then why aren't Romania, Poland the Czech Republic getting blown to bits? The problem is wherever there is a strong Muslim population the incidence rate of backward practices and terrorist attacks have increased. Generally, countries with less religious nonsense are much better off.
Original post by queen-bee
What about western intervention in the Middle East. That's also part of the problem


Before the west was involved, were muslims not killing each other? What about Salahaddin's slaughter of the shia of the former fatimid empire, or the shia safavid empire slaughtering sunnis who refused to convert to shi'ism? Yes, western intervention is a part of the problem and has arguably inflamed the situation so that it's taking longer to become peaceful than it would have, but the origin of all these issues happened about 1400 years ago... And I'm not referring to Muhammad (sawas).

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