Is it time Europe bans Islam & muslim immigration?

Yes but that is true of any political actor.

We don't believe Western propaganda when it said Saddam had 45 minute missiles and he was the worst dictator in the world whom we needed to intervene on on humanitarian grounds. We mostly figure that Western interests intended to gain control over oil fields.

Similarly I see no reason to take the ISIS lot particularly at their word or refrain from analysing their motives based on political expediency.

They are right. It's time we stopped giving money to Muslim countries.

And food and medicine and technology and all the things that make the modern world, which through its backwardness they are unable to produce themselves.

Time to pull out of the camps stop the Aid let them survive on their own and the power of their God.

I'm not saying we shouldn't analyse their motives because of political expediency. And I don't assume the thing in bold about the Iraq War either. If you're going to do it, at least call it what it is: speculation, not analysis. As far as I see it, you cannot advance the argument that we need to unite with Muslims because IS wants to create division with this attack if you don't have evidence for the latter. That just looks like trying to further one's view with dodgy reasoning. It doesn't really stand to reason to cite one example where people wrongly believe something without hard evidence and using that to justify doing so in this situation.

This is the problem with Islam:

Its a bit like football. It is a vessel for for "togetherness" whereby followers of that faith band together and enact group instinct survival, wanting to destroy other groups (similar to rival football fans wanting to beat each other up). However, the problem is Islam takes it to the next level. Entire countries are enshrined within Islam and its devoters base their entire lives on it.

Some TSR users have quotes in their avatars relating to Islam/Muhammed, they are obsessed with it. This obsession provides the basis for committing terrorism.

Two suicide bombers and you aren't sure if its an Islamic attack?

After yet more terrible terror attacks in France is it time that Europe faces reality and bans Islam & muslim immigration to Europe, muslim attacks seems never ending, 9/11, 7/7, Lee Rigby, Madrid Bombings, Belgium attacks, Rotherham Abuse, Charlie Hebdo & now more attacks in Paris.

That would literally solve nothing....

Are you claiming that a suicide bombing is necessarily Islamic?

If you want to make this about religion and not terrorism that's fine, but you're fighting a losing battle:

USA (Christian country)
Iraq war (in conjunction with the UK): 134,000 Civilians directly killed

Israel (Jewish country)
Gaza war : 2139 Civilians killed (490 Children) in 50 days

That's already way more than everything you have mentioned. Maybe it is these nations that need to be banning westerners and not vice versa

You are refusing to countenance the simplest and most obvious of political calculations. Analysis blurs into speculation, true, but it is hardly a convoluted argument. I suppose all government policy statements are now to be taken as gospel truth rather than considering the political calculations which may underlie them - speculation or no, we do this all the time and discuss it daily.

They are entirely fanatical about this 7th century ideology. It is the word of God and it is therefore unquestionable in their eyes. Islamic scriptures are both positive and negative but to highlight that fact is construed as being offensive. If you could take the bad elements out and make Islam progressive there'd be no issue but because it is 'the word of God' this simply isn't an option, which makes the entire religion unprogressive, backward and stuck in its 7th century ways. No Muslim is going to question the words of Allah because as far as they are concerned, the negative aspects are just as relevant and right to feature as the positive aspects. When you have a book split between heaven and hell, night and day, love and hate - you will get people who see the light and use Islam as a tool for guidance in life, but you will also get the people who see the dark, the hell and wish to spread it and carry out such horrific attacks in the name of Allah. Islam is a mix of good and bad but it never wants to accept the bad aspects and whenever these things happen, it dismisses them as not being true Muslims. You simply cannot state that Islam is a religion of peace or Islam is a religion of hate. It is a religion of both and for that reason it is very hypocritical, which is why its become almost untouchable as a topic to discuss for many. Saying that Islam doesn't have bad elements is as ridiculous as saying that the 24 hour day doesn't have a period where it goes dark. Islam is night and day, a divided religion whereby the outspoken minority are screaming the loudest, metaphorically speaking.

Yes, I am. You're not?!

You realize liberals like you are literally killing Europe ?

No, I'm afraid I don't agree. I don't see why a non-Muslim couldn't detonate a suicide vest.