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Rates of change question

image.jpgQuestion is confusing as I don't know what formula I should use for a cylindrical tank and it says find rate of fluid in proportion to square root of V, though I am meant to show it satisfies an equation with the square root of h?
Reply 1
Original post by TSRforum
image.jpgQuestion is confusing as I don't know what formula I should use for a cylindrical tank and it says find rate of fluid in proportion to square root of V, though I am meant to show it satisfies an equation with the square root of h?

dV/dt = dV/dh dh/dt
Reply 2
Original post by TeeEm
dV/dt = dV/dh dh/dt

Do I use V= 1/3(pi)(r)^2(h)?
If so then dV/dt = 2/3(pi)(r)(h) x dh/dt
Then what?
Edit: h= 3v/(pi)(r^2) do I sub that into -k(h)^1/2 and put it into the equation?
(edited 8 years ago)
Reply 3
Original post by TSRforum
Do I use V= 1/3(pi)(r)^2(h)?
If so then dV/dt = 2/3(pi)(r)(h) x dh/dt
Then what?


you do but note r is constant, h is varying
Reply 4
Original post by TeeEm
you do but note r is constant, h is varying

How does knowing that help me?
Reply 5
Original post by TSRforum
How does knowing that help me?


I do not understand what is the problem.
Reply 6
Original post by TeeEm
I do not understand what is the problem.

I'm still confused, how exactly am I satisfying dh/dt by using dv/dt?
Do I need to re-arrange v into h=3V/(pi)(r)^2 and sub that into -k(V)^1/2 which I then put into dv/dt?
Reply 7
Original post by TSRforum
I'm still confused, how exactly am I satisfying dh/dt by using dv/dt?
Do I need to re-arrange v into h=3V/(pi)(r)^2 and sub that into -k(V)^1/2 which I then put into dv/dt?


Are you happy with post 2?
Reply 8
Original post by TeeEm
Are you happy with post 2?


no, I'm still confused. I'd rather you tell me the answer as I don't have it in the book I am using
Reply 9
Original post by TSRforum
no, I'm still confused. I'd rather you tell me the answer as I don't have it in the book I am using


I would of course tell you the answer but some people here do not like this.
I will look into my resources to find the most similar worked example to yours if you give me 5 minutes
Reply 10
Original post by TSRforum
no, I'm still confused. I'd rather you tell me the answer as I don't have it in the book I am using


Original post by TeeEm
I would of course tell you the answer but some people here do not like this.
I will look into my resources to find the most similar worked example to yours if you give me 5 minutes


this is the closest match I can find
Hopefully this will help you with yours
All the best
Reply 11
Original post by TeeEm
this is the closest match I can find
Hopefully this will help you with yours
All the best

Thanks! I'm assuming you can only do v = Ah instead of 1/3(pi)(r)^2h in "show that" type questions or can you use it in other rate of change questions?
Reply 12
Original post by TSRforum
Thanks! I'm assuming you can only do v = Ah instead of 1/3(pi)(r)^2h in "show that" type questions or can you use it in other rate of change questions?


in your question you have V = 1/3(pi)r2h
but your dV/dh = 1/3(pi)r2 = constant which you can absorb into k
Reply 13
Original post by TeeEm
in your question you have V = 1/3(pi)r2h
but your dV/dh = 1/3(pi)r2 = constant which you can absorb into k

Oh ok, also what about this question?image.jpg There's way too little info for me to reach an answer. Is my working out wrong?
(edited 8 years ago)

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