700,000 men a year are victims of domestic abuse.

I don't understand why most of the commenters are being so militant towards the OP. They never made any attempt to detract from the fact that women are the main victims of domestic abuse, they simply stated that a large number of men also suffer from it and aren't taken seriously, and judging by the comments in this thread, they've been proven completely right on that count. As for people saying things such as "grow up with your misandry" etc, I truly hope you people don't identify as feminist, because the definition of feminism is based on equality, which yes does often mean women's rights, but is not excluded to them, therefore any true feminist would be equally outraged by the flipside of men being afraid to report it out of fear of a counter-accusation.

As for the comments telling men to "man up", they should remember that women are capable of hurting men, and that there is a major stigma which prevents men from defending themselves in these situations, meaning most of the time they just have to take it. Not to mention the fact that mental abuse (such as the type mentioned in the article) is far more common in abuse cases (of both genders) than the physical kind. The OP was simply trying to raise awareness of the fact that male domestic abuse (also) exists and is not a joke.

The OP was simply trying to raise awareness of the fact that male domestic abuse (also) exists and is not a joke.

The OP was looking for an opportunity to piss and moan about feminism. Which is fine, but he shouldn't be doing it under the pretext of showing concern at the plight of male victims of domestic abuse.

Nah. Equality is just one of the issues.

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You can't seek equality and seek to correct all of the problems faced by women, the two can't go together


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Of course you can.
Why can't you seek for women to have equal voting powers and at the same time support vulnerable women who go into prostitution?

aaaaaaaand this right here is the misconception

Feminism is a women's' movement. It focuses on women's issues. Men's movements should focus on such issues but unfortunately there is no coherent mens issues movement as the current MRA seem to be almost entirely comprised of raidically right wing anti-feminists pretending they care about men's issues.

And the feminist movement isn't just about 'equality' it's about campaigning on and trying to help issues which effect women, whether that is something like Breast Cancer or the reasons women go into prostitution among others.

I don't think feminism makes out women can never be the perpetrators, of course they can. I'm a feminist and of course admit and condemn any abuse by women, like I do any abuse by men.

I don't see any contradiction at all between being a feminist and supporting real issues than effect men. Unfortunately it seems like its the MRA lot who does.

Well you can hardly blame me. Maybe feminists should sort out what they're trying to achieve.


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aaaaaaaand this right here is the misconception

Feminism is a women's' movement. It focuses on women's issues. Men's movements should focus on such issues but unfortunately there is no coherent mens issues movement as the current MRA seem to be almost entirely comprised of raidically right wing anti-feminists pretending they care about men's issues.

And the feminist movement isn't just about 'equality' it's about campaigning on and trying to help issues which effect women, whether that is something like Breast Cancer or the reasons women go into prostitution among others.

I don't think feminism makes out women can never be the perpetrators, of course they can. I'm a feminist and of course admit and condemn any abuse by women, like I do any abuse by men.

I don't see any contradiction at all between being a feminist and supporting real issues than effect men. Unfortunately it seems like its the MRA lot who does.

Well you can hardly blame me. Maybe feminists should sort out what they're trying to achieve.


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aaaaaaaand this right here is the misconception

Feminism is a women's' movement. It focuses on women's issues. Men's movements should focus on such issues but unfortunately there is no coherent mens issues movement as the current MRA seem to be almost entirely comprised of raidically right wing anti-feminists pretending they care about men's issues.

And the feminist movement isn't just about 'equality' it's about campaigning on and trying to help issues which effect women, whether that is something like Breast Cancer or the reasons women go into prostitution among others.

I don't think feminism makes out women can never be the perpetrators, of course they can. I'm a feminist and of course admit and condemn any abuse by women, like I do any abuse by men.

I don't see any contradiction at all between being a feminist and supporting real issues than effect men. Unfortunately it seems like its the MRA lot who does.

Different feminsits have different opinions. Different conservatives think differently. Different socialists think differently. Different capitalists think differently. Etc.

It's an organization with a variety of opinions. That's fine. They don't need a party line to be legitimate.

Conservatism, capitalism and socialism aren't comparable to feminism. A political activist movement can't have conflicting aims and be respectable


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The three you've mentioned all are political activist movements. What on earth do you think the Conservative party is? It's a political activist movement. That has fierce disagreements and a wider variety of views on issues.

The idea that everyone in a movement must all have the same aim is ridiculous. They all focus on women's issues. Women's equality is just one issue. Others include female poverty, prostitution etc.

Your criticism is absurd because you apply it only to feminism and to nothing else.

It proves my point about the MRA lot, you don't care about men's issues you just wish to stop women campaigning on theirs.

You asked for my opinion for no reason. I gave it and now you're getting all sensitive.

I mentioned you in one sentence, I wrote a good few paragraphs which had nothing to do with you.

Of course all abuse is awful. What more do you want? What are you trying to imply?

I am one of those men. I can sympathise with their plight. I get beaten up very regularly by my violent girlfriend.

If all abuse is awful then it should be militated against equally. Words aren't
good enough.

By focusing only on women's issues, and responding to female victims with "campaigning" and male ones with "condemnation" you are putting up an entirely arbitrary cordon sanitaire.

"Condemnation" is what politicians do when they don't really care about something but know they have to look all serious and concerned for the cameras. And it adds nothing to the debate: precisely what sort of person would fail to condemn domestic violence against men? It's a non-position and a very unattractive one. I would far rather you were honest with yourself and said you just don't care about men: don't worry, it's natural for men to care more about women than other men.

The only time when campaigning on "[group]'s issues" rather than "issues X, Y and Z" is in any way valid is when that group is systematically disadvantaged in a large majority of areas X, Y and Z. This is patently not the case with women, especially not with domestic abuse.

You don't even have the excuse of being a woman yourself and thus more likely to empathise with other women.