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Graduate Entry Medicine: 2016 Entry

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Original post by Creatingchaos
It could very well be this week for Warwick since they finished interviewing over a week ago and they said they'd get back to us all in Janurary. I have a feeling King's will start next week, but who knows. Best of luck!!


I have different ring tones for my university/general email address, and I still flinch when I hear the other one go off. I can't take two more weeks of this.
Come on, Warwick!
Original post by nickname_esco
Damn im findig out barts is MMI a couple days before my interview!

Is there any more info about how many stations and what each is about? I can't find any info on the portal.


Barts is not MMI
Cripes, another day of looking at my email/track obsessively.
Hi guys!Just looking for friends and advice! Here's what you need to know:I'm doing biology at Coventry uniI've done practice UKCATS for the last 2 years and got an average of 700 (550, 850, lots of practice inbetween :tongue:)I'm captain of LARPing societyI did 6 days of shadowing security at my local hospitalI also did 4 weeks neurosurgery on call (my dad :tongue:)Any tips or hints on where to apply and what I should do?I heard there are some courses in eastern Europe which offer better teaching and career acceleration. I'm on track for a 2:2 so might need this option.
Original post by CallmeDoc
Hi guys!Just looking for friends and advice! Here's what you need to know:I'm doing biology at Coventry uniI've done practice UKCATS for the last 2 years and got an average of 700 (550, 850, lots of practice inbetween :tongue:)I'm captain of LARPing societyI did 6 days of shadowing security at my local hospitalI also did 4 weeks neurosurgery on call (my dad :tongue:)Any tips or hints on where to apply and what I should do?I heard there are some courses in eastern Europe which offer better teaching and career acceleration. I'm on track for a 2:2 so might need this option.



You're going to have to apply to GAMSAT unis with a 2:ii or get a Master's under your belt if you want to try some UKCAT unis. Can you not find away to get a 2:i? A Desmond is really going to hold you back for studying medicine in the UK. Also I'm not sure where you got the impression that European courses are more accelerated as the EU mandates that medical degrees are 5 years long. (UK GEM gets around this because F1 is pre-registration).
i know people getting their interview invites,im still waiting in limbo D:
11 sleeps until I have an answer from Exeter (provided they get back to me on the 29th). I am going insane with nerves. The news they only take 13 grads has me on edge.
Everyone who's been asking about student finance and loans: Under the old system, the amount of loan you were eligible for depended on how much maintenance grant/NHS bursary you were getting; it has not been made clear on the website whether or not this will be the case under the new system.
I tweeted SFE to ask if the new maximum loan amount includes or excludes NHS bursaries, but they haven't yet replied. What is clear is that for GEM students, the maintenance grant in Year 1 is totally gone, so all the money we get from them will be repayable. Bit of a bummer :frown: It's also not clear whether the NHS bursaries, or indeed NHS contributions to our tuition fees, will exist as of September 2016. The decision to change SFE was only taken last week, so I think we're all in for a bit of a wait while the details are hashed out.
Original post by Quilverine
You're going to have to apply to GAMSAT unis with a 2:ii or get a Master's under your belt if you want to try some UKCAT unis. Can you not find away to get a 2:i? A Desmond is really going to hold you back for studying medicine in the UK. Also I'm not sure where you got the impression that European courses are more accelerated as the EU mandates that medical degrees are 5 years long. (UK GEM gets around this because F1 is pre-registration).


Hi! Just looking around online for an official site that mentions the F1 pre-Reg thing but can't seem to find one :frown: do you know of one?
Original post by Gaara Sama
Hi! Just looking around online for an official site that mentions the F1 pre-Reg thing but can't seem to find one :frown: do you know of one?


F1 isn't pre-reg, you're provisionally registered with the GMC. The point of full registration is after F1.

See here for further reading

http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/registration_applications/uk_internships.asp
Original post by LizenkaLizenka
Everyone who's been asking about student finance and loans: Under the old system, the amount of loan you were eligible for depended on how much maintenance grant/NHS bursary you were getting; it has not been made clear on the website whether or not this will be the case under the new system.
I tweeted SFE to ask if the new maximum loan amount includes or excludes NHS bursaries, but they haven't yet replied. What is clear is that for GEM students, the maintenance grant in Year 1 is totally gone, so all the money we get from them will be repayable. Bit of a bummer :frown: It's also not clear whether the NHS bursaries, or indeed NHS contributions to our tuition fees, will exist as of September 2016. The decision to change SFE was only taken last week, so I think we're all in for a bit of a wait while the details are hashed out.


1st year gem students have never had a grant from slc, it's always just been the loan.


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Original post by CallmeDoc
Hi guys!Just looking for friends and advice! Here's what you need to know:I'm doing biology at Coventry uniI've done practice UKCATS for the last 2 years and got an average of 700 (550, 850, lots of practice inbetween :tongue:)I'm captain of LARPing societyI did 6 days of shadowing security at my local hospitalI also did 4 weeks neurosurgery on call (my dad :tongue:)Any tips or hints on where to apply and what I should do?I heard there are some courses in eastern Europe which offer better teaching and career acceleration. I'm on track for a 2:2 so might need this option.


Without extenuating circumstances and/or a stonking GAMSAT score you might have difficulties gaining a place in a UK grad course; all UKCAT courses require a 2.1.

Have you thought about applying to 5-year courses? Or laying off the LARPing and studying your ***s off for your finals? :-p
Original post by prospectivemed56
Without extenuating circumstances and/or a stonking GAMSAT score you might have difficulties gaining a place in a UK grad course; all UKCAT courses require a 2.1.

Have you thought about applying to 5-year courses? Or laying off the LARPing and studying your ***s off for your finals? :-p


Laying off LARPing just isn't an option I'm afraid! :tongue:
Yeah I could probably work a bit harder and get a 2:1 - I'd have to work very hard but it's possible, if it's absolutely necessary! I'm quite lazy by nature! And some of the work is really boring and I know I don't need to know it to be a doctor so I kind of disregard it.

I'm pretty sure this is what I want to do but I think a medicine degree will look good even if I go down another road - isn't that the case?
Do you guys have any idea of what you'd like to specialise in?
Admitting to being lazy is not a way to win friends on here. Medicine is a course which requires a lot of dedication, self motivation and hard work. Unless you are sure you want to do it I would suggest it is not the path for you. Medicine is not a degree to go for just for the sake of looking good.

I would suggest working towards finishing your current degree, get some clinical work experience and then decide what you want to do. Shadow some doctors on weekend and nightshift, talk to them about working 50 - 60 + hours and studying simultaneously for postgrad exams and then ask yourself if you should be trying to take a place on a course from someone who really wants to be a doctor.
Original post by CallmeDoc
Laying off LARPing just isn't an option I'm afraid! :tongue:
Yeah I could probably work a bit harder and get a 2:1 - I'd have to work very hard but it's possible, if it's absolutely necessary! I'm quite lazy by nature! And some of the work is really boring and I know I don't need to know it to be a doctor so I kind of disregard it.

I'm pretty sure this is what I want to do but I think a medicine degree will look good even if I go down another road - isn't that the case?
Do you guys have any idea of what you'd like to specialise in?


You may not need the specific modules in your future career but developing a good work ethic and the ability to be competitive amongst a pool of A*/First class honours applicants will be pretty essential. Some of the work as a medical student and junior doctor may be pretty "boring" and it would do your patients an injustice to go into medicine with the kind of attitude where you just disregard the boring elements.

I'm staying open minded re:specialty. The Shape of Training review may well change the landscape for junior doctor pathways pretty dramatically should it be actioned by the time this cohort would graduate in 2020.
Original post by CallmeDoc
Laying off LARPing just isn't an option I'm afraid! :tongue:
Yeah I could probably work a bit harder and get a 2:1 - I'd have to work very hard but it's possible, if it's absolutely necessary! I'm quite lazy by nature! And some of the work is really boring and I know I don't need to know it to be a doctor so I kind of disregard it.

I'm pretty sure this is what I want to do but I think a medicine degree will look good even if I go down another road - isn't that the case?
Do you guys have any idea of what you'd like to specialise in?


Just to venture ... if you're looking to escape boring, irrelevant, mandatory learning, you might be in for a shock! (anatomy/psychiatry/medicine in society/Krebs cycle...)

I daydream of surgery/hospital specialties when I feel young and GP when I feel old :tongue:

Medicine is highly regarded in the main world of work - lots of my colleagues are ex-doctors, and get paid 20-40% more compared with PhD holders, for instance. Mind you, 140% of 'not very much' is still not very much compared with a consultant's salary, but they get to leave at 5 pm, work from home 3 days a week, and sit down all day.

That said, I wouldn't do medicine (particularly grad medicine) just for the edge you might get in other fields. It not just the extra tuition fees and maintenance loan (easily £50,000+), plus the interest (£10,000s over 30 years) - it's also lost earnings (£100,000-£150,000), lost costs (an extra 5 years of renting rather than paying down a mortgage, another few £10,000s), and lost life opportunities - delaying having kids, spending your twenties cooped up studying for exams, while your friends get on with their lives.

Worth it if you want to be a doctor, but there are easier and MUCH cheaper ways to get into research, publishing, consultancy, or finance if that's what floats your boat.
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Just thought I'd share this
The Guardian has asked students about what they put in their personal statement and if they were honest.

"My honest med school application

I've wanted to study medicine ever since I saw Scrubs when I was 14, you know, the one where Dr. Cox cries and they play How To Save A Life by The Fray.

Since then I've done a week of work experience, which I don't think gives me the experience to say that I would definitely make a good doctor.

I've undertaken several academic activities that bare little relation to medicine, but I'm willing to convince myself otherwise for the interview. Ditto for the above.

I'm deeply worried by the changes the government is making to the NHS and find the managerial double-speak (that I pretend to understand) devalues the meaning of caring for another human being. I will leave the country if there isn't an NHS left when I qualify.

I will definitely have mixed feelings about being a medical student for over half a decade, especially the £90,000 of debt that I'll accrue living in London with maintenance loans.

I am skeptical of knowing whether I'll want to do medicine for the rest of my life, but right now and for the foreseeable future it seems alright.

Ultimately, I don't know that I'm the best candidate for medicine. I don't even know if I'm the best candidate for medicine in my house. I do know that there are more qualified applicants than places available, but hey, maybe I'll get lucky."


https://witness.theguardian.com/assignment/5696396ce4b0f2d1f22cd5ad/1886693
Original post by Ebuwa
Just thought I'd share this
The Guardian has asked students about what they put in their personal statement and if they were honest.

"My honest med school application

I've wanted to study medicine ever since I saw Scrubs when I was 14, you know, the one where Dr. Cox cries and they play How To Save A Life by The Fray.

Since then I've done a week of work experience, which I don't think gives me the experience to say that I would definitely make a good doctor.

I've undertaken several academic activities that bare little relation to medicine, but I'm willing to convince myself otherwise for the interview. Ditto for the above.

I'm deeply worried by the changes the government is making to the NHS and find the managerial double-speak (that I pretend to understand) devalues the meaning of caring for another human being. I will leave the country if there isn't an NHS left when I qualify.

I will definitely have mixed feelings about being a medical student for over half a decade, especially the £90,000 of debt that I'll accrue living in London with maintenance loans.

I am skeptical of knowing whether I'll want to do medicine for the rest of my life, but right now and for the foreseeable future it seems alright.

Ultimately, I don't know that I'm the best candidate for medicine. I don't even know if I'm the best candidate for medicine in my house. I do know that there are more qualified applicants than places available, but hey, maybe I'll get lucky."

https://witness.theguardian.com/assignment/5696396ce4b0f2d1f22cd5ad/1886693


That sounds about right.
Original post by ninalouise258
Whoops! Not sure why I wrote that in my notes. Panel! Thanks!


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Barts run a selection centre which lasts half a day: "Trained assessors will observe you completing tasks including a group-based task and a structured interview, and will score you on a set of predetermined criteria." Some assessors are students, some lecture on the course, others are interested parties like nurses, doctors, academics from the uni and sometimes lay people.
I'm so impatient, this is going to be a long wait.

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