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Should be a total ban on all forms of head and face coverings because it's very intimidating, it's a security threat and has no place in this society.

So no hats then?

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Reply 21

BaconandSauce

Original post by Savage R3N3GAD3

Should be a total ban on all forms of head and face coverings because it's very intimidating, it's a security threat and has no place in this society.

So no motor bike helmets then or Jewish Kippah's

Or Hats or hoodies

You've really not though this through have you.

Reply 22

thunder_chunky

It might make a lot easier for them to eat spaghetti.

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(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 23

sw651

Original post by Katty3

So no hats then?

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You have to remove a hat or face covering if a police officer states

Reply 24

MsFahima

Original post by Savage R3N3GAD3

Should be a total ban on all forms of head and face coverings because it's very intimidating, it's a security threat and has no place in this society.

Why does not being able to see someones head feel intimidating to you?
What kind of society? An intolerant one it seems.

Reply 25

sw651

Original post by ArabianPhoenix

You can't fight ignorance love, these white people on tsr are just messed up lol

That's racism. It concerns us because we live in this country just as much as you. You would feel intimidated if white people walked around in balaclavas wouldn't you?

Reply 26

sw651

Original post by MsFahima

Why does not being able to see someones head feel intimidating to you?
What kind of society? An intolerant one it seems.

Of course if someone walked into a shop in balaclava that wouldn't scare you?

Reply 27

MsFahima

Original post by sw651

You have to remove a hat or face covering if a police officer states

If this is a question of a police officer asking for the headscarf to be removed then I am sure we are very co-operative. Also, women police officers are available in case this is necessary.

Reply 28

MsFahima

Original post by sw651

Of course if someone walked into a shop in balaclava that wouldn't scare you?

Well, it might be a bit weird but a headscarf does not look like a balaclava. I'm not talking about the veil, just the headscarf.

Reply 29

sw651

Original post by MsFahima

If this is a question of a police officer asking for the headscarf to be removed then I am sure we are very co-operative. Also, women police officers are available in case this is necessary.

No. An person wearing a hijab/niqab is protected as it is religious, however as a previous poster mentioned it isn't compulsory

Reply 30

Arkasia

Original post by FluffyCherry

And why would shops ban them anyway? :s-smilie:

A women has the choice to wear a niqab or burqa, and if she wants to then that's her choice! Why would it concern you if you don't see her face, huh?! This honestly has nothing to do with you or anyone else!
As far as I know, wearing the niqab or burqa is not obligatory in Islam so when it comes to security checks and other needed situations, taking it off for facial identification is totally understandable, but other than that I don't see it as a big deal?!!!

'The choice'. Ha.

Reply 31

BobbyFlay

Original post by thunder_chunky

It might make ot easier for them to eat spaghetti.

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They are eating the body of the holy flying spaghetti monster.
One with the body, one with the mind, one with the meatballs.

Reply 32

sw651

Original post by MsFahima

Well, it might be a bit weird but a headscarf does not look like a balaclava. I'm not talking about the veil, just the headscarf.

However, both cover features of the wearer and as such can conceal identity

Reply 33

BaconandSauce

Original post by MsFahima

Also, women police officers are available in case this is necessary.

What if a women police officer isn't available?

Reply 34

sw651

Original post by Arkasia

'The choice'. Ha.

My question is if it is a 'choice', then there shouldn't be a problem removing it should there?

Reply 35

MsFahima

Original post by sw651

No. An person wearing a hijab/niqab is protected as it is religious, however as a previous poster mentioned it isn't compulsory

Yes, NIQAB (face veil) is not necassary, but covering the head (Hijab) is necessary.

Original post by sw651

However, both cover features of the wearer and as such can conceal identity

No, if the face is visible you are not concealing your identity??

Original post by BaconandSauce

What if a women police officer isn't available?

Then, for security reasons, it is permissible to remove the headscarf or the veil.

Reply 36

MsFahima

Original post by Arkasia

'The choice'. Ha.

Yes, CHOICE. What's so amusing?

Reply 37

BaconandSauce

Original post by MsFahima

Then, for security reasons, it is permissible to remove the headscarf or the veil.

So a women isn't required at all and given this would leave many companies open to claims of sexual discrimination I'm glad you respond this way

But sadly you are the first person I have asked this question too that has responded like this.

Reply 38

sw651

Original post by MsFahima

Yes, NIQAB (face veil) is not necassary, but covering the head (Hijab) is necessary.

No, if the face is visible you are not concealing your identity??

Then, for security reasons, it is permissible to remove the headscarf or the veil.

1. This is wrong, I have Muslim friends who don't wear it.

2. Incorrect, face shape is used as determination for identity too, the Hijab conceals that unless it is worn loosely