Why should the bill be split on first dates?

I'm going to make a wild guess that you are a woman.

Keep in mind that this is just my opinion and thoughts and I'm welcoming other points of view.

I think it's basic etiquette and manners, that if you ask somebody out on a date, you pay!
Doesn't matter which gender you are. But if you invite someone out, YOU NEED to be prepared to pay, it only makes sense. You INVITED them to take them to do something nice, and spend time with you. This isn't a teenage birthday party typa invitation.

So imagine being asked out by someone, say 'Let's go out to eat this night', and they bring you to a fancy expensive restaurant. It would be rude to expect them to pay, what if they can't afford it?

Obviously, I would always pay for my date if I ask them out. If they invited me, I would 100% offer to pay for myself, but I would expect them to offer out of manners.

Tell me your opinions.

I asked a mate if he fancied a few bevvies after work... Doesn't mean I'm obliged to get every round in.

did you not read my thread?

That isn't how I roll. If i invite someone out and say '' my treat " then expect me to pay for us both. If i don't say this or the person that invited me doesn't mention covering the costs, then I'd assume I'm paying for myself. If my friend was to invite me to a fancy restaurant knowing very well it's out of my means, I would decline the invite or suggest somewhere else.

You're talking about first dates. I wouldn't expect a lot of people to be having an expensive dinner on the first date!

Split the bill on the first date so your partner doesn't feel like that's going to happen all the time. Then there is the expectation that YOU will always gonna be the one paying the meal. You end up like a doormat and her thinking you're loaded.

That's what I think anyway.

People will tell you 'it's a surprise', take you to some expensive af place and still expect you to pay, how is that fine.

Also, imo this also says alot about the person. Generosity is an asset and something good to have.

IN an ideal world; where women asked out guys at the same rate that guys do girls currently; then I wouldn't be concerned on who's paying for who. then and only then, frankly y'all can treat yourselves to dinner in a sharks' underbelly for all i care.

but.

this isn't an ideal world.

and most women are either too "shy" or claim to be; so that they can get off with whatever they can from as many men as they can. this would go on to an extent where a woman could basically start off broke; but end up a millionaire by the end of the night. it's disgusting and frankly no different to gold-diggers/prostitutes in my eyes.

no. men shouldn't have to bear the brunt of the first date; Regardless of who asked who out. it takes two to tango right? didn't the woman have to agree to the date? are you trying to insinuate that to all women asked out; most always say yes regardless of intentions afterwards? No. they don't. for the fact that they agreed to have the date; then it's only common courtesy that the bill be split.

after all, if feminists (who claim they support both sexes) are going to be clamouring for equality; then shouldn't this aspect of life be looked at as well? or is it only a "disadvantage" if it doesn't benefit them?

#notallmen

This is basically where my line of questioning was heading.

My partner wants to get married so under the logic of OP she should bear the whole brunt of the cost of the entire day as it was her idea. That would be lovely wouldn't it?

ironically, women also want kids.

using ops' logic; then THEY must bear the cost of raising the kid; from birth to adulthood.

i'm talking: monetary cost, emotional cost; social cost; e.t.c. the kid must be raised entirely BY the female.

not a very smart logic is it