Any muslims here also stopped believing in God?

No it isn't, there is no evidence whatsoever for it. Err, this is a public forum and we're in the UK where free speech is allowed.

False yet again.

Yes it is,

you need evidence to say it's God's words (?)

Exactly, if you're saying it's God's word then you need evidence to prove that, and you have not provided any.

Here are 12 documented textual variants of Surah 2 verse 106 in the Quran. Keep in mind this is one single verse.

http://i.imgur.com/ipyK25X.png

Even this Islamic site says slight errors and additions have occurred

http://submission.org/verify_preserving_and_protecting_Quran.html



Circular reasoning. And you are yet to show me how you know it hasn't deviated from the original.

I can't believe that you think the Qur'aan is not God's words. Oh hang on, maybe bc you're just being highly ignorant like you always are + have been.

It was revealed through the Angel Gabriel to Muhammed SAW. You don't believe that also?

I don't trust your source - the 'Islamic' website is from the followers of Rashad Khalifa - a guy who claimed to be a messenger and started removing verses from the Quran in order for it to fit his 'mathmatical code', so his works and anything from his followers I do not trust whatsoever. I cannot verify the image either.

I don't trust your source - the 'Islamic' website is from the followers of Rashad Khalifa - a guy who claimed to be a messenger and started removing verses from the Quran in order for it to fit his 'mathmatical code', so his works and anything from his followers I do not trust whatsoever. I cannot verify the image either.

I don't trust your source - the 'Islamic' website is from the followers of Rashad Khalifa - a guy who claimed to be a messenger and started removing verses from the Quran in order for it to fit his 'mathmatical code', so his works and anything from his followers I do not trust whatsoever. I cannot verify the image either.

Mohammed did do miracles, he split the moon in half.

After studying Islam, it just seems like a version of Christianity and Judaism (though I don't find either of those better, atleast both Moses and Jesus could perform miracles), where as Islam was written by a man in a cave, what was Muhammeds miracles? In my honest opinion all Islam seems like to me is Arab imprelism, arab clothing, arab names, arab way of life is the way Islam is founded on, many people want to show themselves as real muslim so therefore turn to the Arab lifestyle, it is interchanged, I don't believe in Allah anymore either, I've come to the conclusion to be a good person with morals you just need to be born and bred with them, many of my friends were muslim who turned ex muslim, at first I tried to keep my distance from them but in the end they turned out to be better peolpe then my muslim friends.

Mohammed did do miracles, he split the moon in half.

Mary, resorting to insults just shows you have no valid argument to make. And why would you expect a non-Muslim to believe the Qur'an is God's word? If anything that shows you're ignorant about people and their respective beliefs...
And yet you have no evidence for this statement whatsoever. Why don't we start from the beginning. Can you prove to me that angels exist?

Was it necessary to mention my name? Or was this some sort of defense? There is a reason I changed my username on this account but if you do carry on, you'll be reported.

I'm not insulting, I'm simply just stating how ignorant you are in every thread, having the misconception of yourself that you're always correct, sorry but frankly you're not. Why don't you believe it isn't? Evidence isn't a reason.

There wasn't no beginning but if you insist. If you do not believe that they exist (which I believe you don't obviously) then me trying to "prove" is simply pointless (?)

Well the variations are there to see. And it is also plainly obvious that all Qur'ans are not the same because you're forgetting that they've been translated into different languages and translation is, as you know, impossible to perfectly preserve across languages, giving variations right there.

But enough about that point, why don't we get the actual heart of the issue and address what importance a hypothetically homogeneous Qur'an would have. It does not prove divinity any more than Shakespeare's plays not changing do.

I can't believe that you think the Qur'aan is not God's words.

That is true as when Arabic is translated in English for example there are many words in Arabic which do not have a direct translation per say. I assume the same for all other languages. However the original Arabic text remains the same.

You mean, like you making dupe accounts when your original one was banned? I really don't think you're in any position to be reporting.
You are insulting. As I've already explained many times on here, crying "ignorant" is simply a defence mechanism to try and discredit the poster. But until you actually highlight this apparent ignorance then it is a load of hot air.
Now, stop waffling and address the points raised. Where is your evidence that the Qur'an is the word of God?
So in short, you have no evidence.

But was it by chance?
Or was it by an intelligent being that had the intention of doing this?