Would you allow your 15 year old daughter to have sex in her room?

It is an obvious point and continues to be irrelevant in the context of my post. It doesn't contradict or further my point and therefore is irrelevant to what I wrote.

I don't want to restrict my child's life like that. A lot better option is to provide her with information about contraception and safe sex. Sex is almsot 100% safe if condom and pill are used. And if she by some unfortunate event became pregnant abortion exists for a reason. But with right contraception that doesnt really happen. I don't want to be the bitch mom whose child becomes unhappy one. Many people enjoy sex; I love math and I couldnt live without it. It relaxes even thou I suck at it. For some people sex has same kind of effect, and I could never tell someone to not have it if they are truly willing because that would be same as if someone told me to not do math. And I would become hella angry and sad for that.
Why is sex before marriage bad anyway by default? Some people will never marry. Should they also spend their whole life in celibacy?

And this is coming for someone who has decided to spend her life in celibacy (so the whole kid question is pretty hypothetical as I won't hsve one), so I'm definitely not trying to justify my own actions or anything.

There's nothing wrong with controlling a 15 year old girl. Holy jesus. Your sweet innocent daughter, having sex with someone she probably doesn't love. Being exploited by a horny teenager with spots on his face. Human decency is DEAD. Don't be a bitch mom, buy her some clean needles too, if she was going to do heroin, she better do if safely right?! I mean you can't tell her what to do.

And no I wouldn't literally kill the guy I was obviously exaggerating lol

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Nice to know, lovely. I'm old enough to have a child too but I couldn't financially support a child.

However my age has nothing to do with that as you stated 'I'm old enough' as if age depends your financial capabilities.

You do know that though not many, there are eighteen year olds who are very cable to financially support a child without the support of their parents or from the partners. Not everyone follows that full time education route at my age. Some opened businesses, made Youtube money, more money than those who finished a degree and got a job afterwards. Today there's a lot of opportunities.

According to the Sexual Offences Act, 2003 it’s a criminal offence for any kind of sexual activity to take place between two people where one or both participants is under 16. So I couldn't care less about whether or not you had under-aged sex, the law is still against it. I wouldn't promote this to my child.

-Never once said it did buddy

-Notice YOU were responsible. And you were 17 not 15, you were older than 16. That doesn't guarantee your 15 year old child would responsible too. Plus your child could take these same precautions and still have a different outcome. No contraceptive is 100% effective, some though few still get pregnant using these 'precautions' and still catch STIs. STIs can also be oral and many of these kids don't know this. Herpes though passed through kissing is the same type virus as the genital herpes. A lot don't know a condom shouldn't be worn even when performing fellatio, cunnilingus and anilingus. Yes I'm sure you would raise this point, making your child aware of this.

-That's you and note you were 17 NOT 15!
And it doesn't mean your child will have that same outcome. He/She could have a sexual relationship and not be emotionally ready with that relationship becoming a distraction. At fifteen, you haven't even received GCSEs yet but just finishing year 9 my God. Legally he/she can't even properly work as they are not even old enough to receive their NI.

- You could always learn this, even at 30 years old. There's no rush.

-Exactly, this is the same question I have for you. How could you be sure your 15 year old is truly ready? Say if she's not but isn't honest with you. This works both ways but with my side, I won't allow the possibilities of her having sex when she is not ready.

-So you don't think society hasn't overused that word 'love'? Not even for a tad bit? All these silly teenage Facebook statues, twitter posts about how they love their new boyfriend or girlfriend after a week of just meeting them is a great example of what I am talking about.

'Love is a concept that takes a lifetime to fully understand.'
- I never said I fully understood love. I don't. But I can bet you these teens don't have the slightest clue on it either. It's possible but highly, very unlikely. And I'm not talking about the platonic love parents and siblings share but romantic love between a husband and a wife, boyfriend and girlfriend.

'Sacrifice and compromise, selflessness are mere components of what it means to love somebody. But it's a concept that develops with time and age.'
-Exactly!
So glad you said it yourself, 'time and AGE'. Now going off what you had stated, can you see why it's very unlikely for the reason of a fifteen year old to have sex is because of love? It's why I had disagreed with that statement you made earlier about the reason being love. Highly unlikely!

'You are only 18...?! I see'
- And? Well isn't this comment quite contradictory considering you made that whole rant about your age, you being 17 and maturity? Yes I am 'only 18' and so the hell what? What does my age have to do with what I am talking about? I understand get that comment. Most of all, I don't see how you didn't think it was ok to point out a child who is only '15' having sex as necessary but thought it was a necessity to point out I was 'only 18' addressing this issue.

'I have no idea as to why you believe lust is selfish.'
-Sorry was about to go fully Christian on here lol. I was trying to state the difference between lust and love. Lust is taking, wanting, desire, fulfilling desire which is why lust based relationships don't usually last compared to ones based on love. With love is sacrifice, giving, wanting to make your loved one happy etc, etc.

Exactly, that's an important point. I'm 25 next year, (still waiting on 24..it's coming!) so things like family and children are things I'm starting to think about quite seriously. I'm still young though, it's okay.



Ofcourse it does. Why can't a 15 year old take out a loan or mortgage?



A very, very small minority. Almost negligible. Youtube money haha? You're telling me an 18 year old can buy/rent a house/accommodation with enough space to raise the child in, provide an income etc? Like I said, an absolute minority.

There are lots of job opportunities are there? I'm sure there are. If you go to university and graduate, please tell me about all the opportunity there is.




I wouldn't promote breaking the law to my child either?




You sort of implied it?




I didn't specify the age where I lost my virginity. I have to be careful to not incriminate myself. I was doing all of those things at 15 and younger, and started my DofE at the appropriate age.

No, you can never guarantee your child won't do something stupid, no matter how good of a parent you are. Education and open, honest discussion.

I don't know why you felt the need to educate me on STIs. I had my sex education in primary school. Another class in secondary school was more "How to put a condom on a banana" sort of thing.

You said a condom shouldn't be worn? I take it you mean should be worn. I don't see what a condom would do for cunnilingus and anilingus, that would be pointless. And wearing a condom when receiving fellatio is an absolute waste of time, and quite weird. I don't think any woman would want to do it if I was wearing a condom.



I said I had multiple sexual partners by 17. I'm not incriminating myself any further.



No lol.



They probably won't be ready. They won't be ready for university. They won't be ready to graduate and start working full time in the big scary world. I probably will never truly be 'ready' to have children. It's not about being ready. It's primarily about being safe. That's the priority. That's my point.


Like I said earlier about you implying your child won't ask you for consent to have sex, how do you plan to stop them?



I'm an adult, I don't have teenagers on my Facebook. I don't care what people write on Facebook. They can write whatever they want. It's not my place to judge their relationship or the quality of their love. I certainly don't have people on FB that declare their love for the new partner after a week. Not that I'd care anyway, more important things to worry about.




So? Who cares? I'd like them to start learning as soon as possible at the earliest stage. There is no 'correct' time to start learning about what love is and feels like.



Yeah? I've never claimed a 15 year old has sex because of love. That would be ridiculous. They do it because they are horny and it's fun.



I've made no contradictory statements. However, you just did. Here:

"What does my age have to do with what I am talking about?"

What will you say when your 15 year old daughter uses that against you when you've found out she's had sex?



Ah, you're a Christian. Should of said. That would of saved me a lot of time. That's an incorrect definition of lust.

Google says: lust = strong sexual desire.

Nothing about taking or being selfish.

Most relationships start with lust.

Please use multi quote function, it makes reading posts a lot easier.

Exactly, that's an important point. I'm 25 next year, (still waiting on 24..it's coming!) so things like family and children are things I'm starting to think about quite seriously. I'm still young though, it's okay....a lot easier.

Yes I would. I was having sex in my school's grounds at 13 so who am I to hold the moral high ground? As long as she used protection and it was someone she trusted then it's all good.

That's crazy.
Did anyone catch you?

It shows.Yeah, in the same way that 'cracker' means 'white person' and 'n*gger' means 'black person.' It's literal meaning is irrelevant; it's how it's usually used that matters.Your original stereotype about 'goras' was racist and, if I were you, I'd go delete it before somebody reports it.

Nope, it was common for students to have sex there, I was by no means the first and I know for a fact that I haven't been the last.

Nope, it was common for students to have sex there, I was by no means the first and I know for a fact that I haven't been the last.

lmao, in the bushes?

My school was in the countryside so the grounds were fields and lakes. There was also a dense forest and that's where students have sex.