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Man arrested with guns and a koran at Disneyland Paris

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QE2
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Original post by joey11223
Also you got to be pretty thick to think you can walk a couple of guns through a metal detector.
Are you claiming that Islamist terrorists can't be "thick"?
Haven't you seen "Four Lions"?
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Original post by HAnwar
No, you're the gullible one who's probably just got his facts from biased news sources.

I know this family, they live like down the road and their family isn't like that.
You have obviously never seen all the vox pops after the mass shootings, serial killer, psycho rapist cases.

"I lived next door to him for 10 years. He always seemed like such a nice guy".
Reply 62
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Original post by luminarychild
ASo why is it that we blame the WHOLE religion for the acts of a minority in this religion of over a billion believers of Islam .
Probably because the religion contains so many exhortations to acts of violence against those who oppose the religion. The fact that the vast majority of followers of said religion do not put those exhortations into practice is irrelevant. The specific verses, along with the associated tafsir, are quite clear.

It is the religion that so many people are opposed to, not the majority of followers.
Original post by teenhorrorstory
Makes no sense why someone with the intention of carrying out an attack and mass murder would bring the Koran along-even if it was a Muslim


If they had senses they won't want to carry out mass murder, or be a muslim.

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Original post by TheArtofProtest
I don't think you know the difference between "irony" and "fitting".


Oh yes of course. How ironic fantasy land believers want to attack Disney land. Prob rage when they found out Disney land has no 72 virgins.

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Original post by Plantagenet Crown
Assuming this story is real, how fitting that he was presumably preparing to carry out an attack on Disneyland in the name of fantasy land beliefs.


Arabia isnt a fantasy, omg ur so dumb

- dw this is just irony, im teaching that guy who didnt understand your post
Original post by HAnwar
Unless you have enough evidence to prove that Hamza Tzortzis was using that website, that's a disgusting accusation to make.


The evidence is there - it's his name, linked to his address. Therefore, the onus to prove is on those who are saying it wasn't him.
Original post by HAnwar
Can't believe people still believe this story that's been made up.
The son didn't have any link with Al Qaeda. His Facebook account was totally different, it wasn't even the same guy.


Aren't you the poster who posted this

Original post by MildredMalone
The evidence is there - it's his name, linked to his address. Therefore, the onus to prove is on those who are saying it wasn't him.


see my post above
Original post by KimKallstrom
>Sane

> Thinks Muhammad rode a winged horse

Pick one.



How about you stop insulting people who have such great meanings to others lives. If you haven't got anything useful to say then don't say it. How would you like it if someone insulted someone that you truly love and care about?

And don't just say something stupid back, think about it and how what your saying is affecting so many peoples lives even if it is just a sentence.
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Original post by luminarychild
All religions are deemed as a religion of peace, and they aim to follow a humane path right? So why is it that we blame the WHOLE religion for the acts of a minority in this religion of over a billion believers of Islam .


i) These "acts" are alarmingly frequent.
ii) These "acts" are committed on our soil and not just in foreign lands.
iii) These "acts" are quietly supported by people we have given a home to.
iv) These "acts" support verses from the Qur'an.
v) These "acts" go hand in hand with the spread of Islam through western territory while westeners are very evidently "the enemy".
vi) These "acts" go hand in hand with hostility and violence from "moderates" to non-believers.
vii) Political correctness tells us to continually hug the lion that mauls us. This has generated resentment, and continues to do.

Original post by luminarychild
don't see this happening with any other group?


Please name one other group which is counter to western beliefs and continues to attack them. I'll try and respond.

Original post by luminarychild
It's like saying X country is a beautiful place then shunning this country and it's native person because an X person(s) of that countries origin did something horrendous?


Only if the whole country reads from the same book, otherwise no, it's nothing like that.

Original post by luminarychild
The most shocking thing is you people jump straight on to the chance to attack Islam and don't even consider the damage this lunatic could of done? you don't even think about a solution or express your worry for the kids that could of been slaughtered. That's just sick, waiting around for bloodshed so you can criticise the whole religion.


When something happens time and time again, you become desensitised to it. A person going somewhere with the intent to kill a load of innocent people in the name of Islam is not a shocking story anymore. Thankfully, nobody was hurt this time, but it isn't going to be the last time, we all know that. It's going to happen time and time again.

The real sickness is our frantic scramble to wrap Islamic communities in cotton wool every time an attrocity happens. Australia, Britain, France...the bodies weren't even cold before the latest hashtag came out to promote hugging your nearest neighbour who subscribes to Islam, or the BBC rushing out a documentary to show how poor Islamic communities are coping.

You can, and I'm sure you will, continue trying to distance Islam from the bloodshed in our cities, and in countries all over the world, but the fact is more and more people are waking up to the fact that your cherry picked verses aren't stopping the real message being fired and stabbed into innocent people again and again.

Original post by luminarychild
I don't get why muslims and non muslims work together to get rid of radical Islam or any terror organisation.


Now there's a radical idea, I wonder why nobody hasn't thought of that before? Oh, they have, for over a decade now.
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Original post by Sgt_Haytham
Oh the irony/pure hypocrisy.

Because if the religion was as peaceful as it is said to be, you wouldn't have small groups causing mayhem, would you?

In actual fact ISIS and other terrorist organisations are following the Qu'ran word for word, arguably better than you and other "progressive" Muslims. Makes you think that, doesn't it?

Also, poor wording in your last sentence.


Haven't you guys ever thought that maybe people are just using Islam as an excuse to do terrible acts. Those people who are shouldn't be considered as Muslims even if they do look like ones because what they are doing is certainly not what Islam is about!

"But he was not known to security sources and a police source told AFP that a preliminary investigation did not point to terrorism.
The man had said he was carrying the weapons because he feared for his safety, according to the source."

Little things like this are always left alone and never discussed. All everybody does is jump to conclusions when they see a Muslim nowadays. ~How about we think about ( just for a second- if you can) those Muslims who have been insulted or harmed in any way. Those families in Syria who have done nothing wrong are dying for no absolute reason. How about those innocent children that are dying everyday and all we can do is sit here and criticise people and talk about about things that aren't going to help anyone in any way.

How about we stop talking about stupid things that aren't important and actually make a difference for others in the world?
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Original post by MildredMalone
The evidence is there - it's his name, linked to his address. Therefore, the onus to prove is on those who are saying it wasn't him.

I have explained this above. It's evident you haven't read any of it.

Original post by BaconandSauce
Aren't you the poster who posted this



So?
If I wanted to 'conceal his faults', I wouldn't have brought this up in the first place.
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Original post by HAnwar
I have explained this above. It's evident you haven't read any of it.



So?
If I wanted to 'conceal his faults', I wouldn't have brought this up in the first place.
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I have and given your previous posts it's obvious what you are trying to do.

And you didn't bring this up another poster did and you replied by trying to cover his faults something which according to you earns you a pat of the back from your god.

Look it's this simple since you made that post all of your other post can been understood in that context.
Original post by cbreef
Hey, C'mon. 99% are sane human beings


Here are some statistics that might change your mind:


Policy Exchange: 61% of British Muslims want homosexuality punished http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

Center for Social Cohesion: 40% of British Muslim students want Sharia http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html

ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06 http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

Channel Four (2006): 31% of younger British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified compared to 14% of those over 45.http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/publications/living%20apart%20together%20-%20jan%2007.pdf

BBC Radio (2015): 45% of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent "mainstream Islam".http://www.comres.co.uk/polls/bbc-radio-4-today-muslim-poll/

Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

BBC (2015): Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, 27% of British Muslims openly support violence against cartoonists. Another 8% would not say, meaning that only 2 of 3 surveyed would say that the killings were not justified. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31293196

GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

NOP Research: 62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech;Only 3% adopt a "consistently pro-freedom of speech line" http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist
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Original post by QE2
Are you claiming that Islamist terrorists can't be "thick"?
Haven't you seen "Four Lions"?


Yes four lions the comedy film reflects upon Islam so well :colonhash: excellent understanding you have there m8
Original post by AlwaysWatching
Why wouldn't they? If they are deeply religious and are doing it for religious reasons, it would make sense to bring a Qur'an as a form of symbolic spiritual guidance.


Exactly

The West is going to continue getting cucked till liberals wake the **** up
Original post by Sgt_Haytham
Oh the irony/pure hypocrisy.

Because if the religion was as peaceful as it is said to be, you wouldn't have small groups causing mayhem, would you?

In actual fact ISIS and other terrorist organisations are following the Qu'ran word for word, arguably better than you and other "progressive" Muslims. Makes you think that, doesn't it?

Also, poor wording in your last sentence.


If that's your logic then I conclude from your statement that peace is non existent in the world because an individual of any possible background has committed crime and that we should oppose their native lands, culture and people too? Including our own british people? who seem to get away woth rape and crime as most of the attention is going towards Islam.

They are not following the quran word by word, give me an example? they are trying to forcefully repeat history which will never happen, as the quran states signs of qiyamah that Islam is more likely to fade away when judgement day calls.
Original post by Student1408
Haven't you guys ever thought that maybe people are just using Islam as an excuse to do terrible acts. Those people who are shouldn't be considered as Muslims even if they do look like ones because what they are doing is certainly not what Islam is about!

"But he was not known to security sources and a police source told AFP that a preliminary investigation did not point to terrorism.
The man had said he was carrying the weapons because he feared for his safety, according to the source."




Little things like this are always left alone and never discussed. All everybody does is jump to conclusions when they see a Muslim nowadays. ~How about we think about ( just for a second- if you can) those Muslims who have been insulted or harmed in any way. Those families in Syria who have done nothing wrong are dying for no absolute reason. How about those innocent children that are dying everyday and all we can do is sit here and criticise people and talk about about things that aren't going to help anyone in any way.

How about we stop talking about stupid things that aren't important and actually make a difference for others in the world?


If this guy hadn't been stopped a lot of innocent children would have died at Disneyland.

Stopping potential terrorists is "helping". :lolwut:
Original post by Student1408
How about you stop insulting people who have such great meanings to others lives. If you haven't got anything useful to say then don't say it. How would you like it if someone insulted someone that you truly love and care about?

And don't just say something stupid back, think about it and how what your saying is affecting so many peoples lives even if it is just a sentence.


How is telling some who believes in such nonsense as flying horses they are not sane insulting?

It's an opinion held by the majority of people.

To me it sounds like you are unhappy accepting this fact so would rather it not be talked about.

But he is right people who believe in flying horses can be dismissed as, well I was trying to find a suitable word but all I can come up with is, idiots.

This is the real world so better you get used it sooner or later

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