David Cameron on UK Muslim Communities: "We won’t let women be second-class citizens"

Not really that is a big generalisation, what about the domestic violence from english, christian backgrounds ?They dont look like their being treated badly does it ? They look pretty happy if you ask me

Not really that is a big generalisation, what about the domestic violence from english, christian backgrounds ?They dont look like their being treated badly does it ? They look pretty happy if you ask me

Treatment of women in Muslim communities is generally awful due to the nature of Islam and the countries it originates from. In my town, a large majority of the special school places are taken up by the children of Pakistani immigrants - this overrepresentation arises from the inbreeding as illiterate cousins etc are essentially sold into marriage then shipped over and are unable to learn the language and leave the house.

This treatment of women is solely unique to Islam - no other religion in the UK would even dare treat women like this. Islam, as a religion is almost entirely against our western, christian values and should rightly be forced to change by the government to bring it in line.

1. You mean you haven't met an English woman who is willing to sit at home and cook for you, most likely a lazy misogynist who grew up believing a woman's role is limited to pandering to her man's needs.
2. So the English women at universities and colleges are merely a figment of our imagination?
3. Worship who? You? Why exactly should any women be having to worship anyone or anything? What's it got to do with you?
4. Lol, obviously your sexual advances have been turned down by English women, and instead you witnessed them making their own choices in who they choose to have sex with. This is clearly a case of bitter reject syndrome. (Incidentally though, what's it got to do with you how a woman (of any race) 'seeks cock'? What has anyone's personal, sex life got to do with you other than your girlfriend's (though I doubt you have one, with your horrendous attitude).

And finally, how do you even know all these things about 'english women'? Have you conducted some kind of representative sampling research into this? Because tbh it comes across like you have been brought up in a patriarchal, archaic upbringing and expected to grow up and suddenly, poof! have women at your disposal and have found yourself bitterly disappointed as unfortunately, the lifestyle you seek is more to be found in somewhere like Pakistan or Saudi Arabia. I would suggest you get over yourself and learn to respect women.

1.) every British girl I ever dated was incapable of cooking, it was always macaroni cheese or spaghetti bolognese. I didn't have my first gf who was able to cook until I started dating foreigners, all of which were good cooks. I don't expect a girl to do all my cooking as I love cooking too, but I see it as something all women should be able to do. Women would equally complain about a man who can't change a tyre.

2.) I say there are a lot of British girls studying, but not enough. But not a gender issue, I'd like to see more people studying period.

3 Silly point, I DGAF about worship.

4 I think it is a societal problem that women are wasting their most fertile years on riding the cock carousel and have only their worst years left to offer their lifetime partner.

So he does have some points.

Because obviously one photo of half of a dozen women means that hundreds of millions of women all round the world are happy and not being treated badly. Strong argument, dude.

What about domestic violence in English Christian backgrounds? No-one says it doesn't exist, of course it does. But Islam is the only religion that a) claims to be perfect and directly from god and b) states openly in its holy book that women who are 'disobedient' (because apparently women are animals) can be beaten.

Oh wow! One picture of a bunch of girls smiling for the camera and boom! Proof there is no problem and every other girl in that country also has no problem and is equally happy since these girls are happy.

What a ridiculous way to argue, indeed. I'm sorry to say you are small-minded.

Not 'beaten' get your facts right, are you educated in Arabic or Islamic studies to actually understand what the verse's mean ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2sZrrXeMZo

Says you. So domestic violence doesnt occur in white christian backgrounds no ? But why is it that Alcohol which is a major contributing factor to DV is forbidden in Islam.

'Struck', then. 'Hit'. It's allegedly divine' permission for men to hit women and it's sickening.

1. So you're saying they CAN cook, just not the cuisine(s) that your tastebuds desire? Go date a chef then. Why 'should' women be able to cook? What if they don't enjoy it? And I don't know who you have been dating, but equating expectation of women having to spend their days cooking with expecting a man to change a tyre isn't really the same thing. Irregardless, if one of your criteria for a partner is 'must enjoy cooking' - that's fair enough. But saying that all women SHOULD be able to cook is a sexist comment. It's none of your business what all other women enjoy or don't enjoy and it's not your place to enforce hobbies on them in order for them to be a 'real' woman. There are women who like to cook and others who don't. Both are still equally valid as women, in their own right. You just want old fashioned customs to remain in place.

2. Again, it is up to the individual woman whether she wants to study or not. We don't need 70 million highly-educated professionals. If some people (male or female) would rather do a low-skilled job, that's up to them.

3. The previous poster did care about women worshipping, hence I included that.

4. Women's 'worst years'? What years exactly are a woman's 'worst years' ? Do men have 'worst' years too? Boy, I feel sorry for any gf of yours having to contend with your objectifying women. A woman going through her most fertile years doesn't automatically make her want a baby, you know. Not all women want babies. As for 'offering her partner her worst years' - what a ridiculous statement. If her partner wants a younger variant, then he should pick someone younger. A woman doesn't have to offer any of her 'years' - best or worst or whatever kind of year it may be. You do realise a woman's year is the same as a man's, right? In that every year she experiences, will be filled with ups and downs, surprises (good and bad) and unexpected events. That's life.
If you mean to say she is not able to offer her partner the best FERTILE years of her life - well, maybe they didn't meet at that time? Maybe she wasn't in the right phase in her life to have a baby? Maybe she didn't want/feel ready to have a baby? You do realize there is more to having a baby then simply being of fertile age? Unless you are willing to provide a home and financial means to every women of peak fertile age, then you should have no expectations at all.

It seems like you're pretty immature and inexperienced in life to make such comments. Quite frankly, they are ridiculous and I'm now wondering why I even bothered to justify them with a response.

Lol. Oh now I have been convinced to convert! All along I thought the word was 'beaten' and now I know it is 'strike' or 'hit', I am SO MUCH MORE IN FAVOUR! Yes, please beat me or hit me instead of striking me, if I disobey you, O' husband.

I'm not sure how deporting these women helps alleviate their oppression... Cameron, PR mastermind appeasing the liberal Guardinistas and immigrant hating Kippers in one fell stroke.

every British girl I ever dated was incapable of cooking, it was always macaroni cheese or spaghetti bolognese. I didn't have my first gf who was able to cook until I started dating foreigners, all of which were good cooks. I don't expect a girl to do all my cooking as I love cooking too, but I see it as something all women should be able to do. Women would equally complain about a man who can't change a tyre.

You think that pouring boiling water into a cup of noodles constitutes cooking, I would wager that you are the immature one.

4: A woman's worst years are from the age of 30 onwards where fertility begins it's inevitable decline along with her looks. A man's worst years start much later. This is called biology, not sexism. You're right that not all women want babies however the majority do, but they are unwilling to part with their 20s and instead wait until they're past the hill when the only men left willing to take them are of low value, so she probably won't love him. A man can of course get a younger woman and the alpha men will. Women are married to the state now so they don't feel like they need men and that's why they are so easily willing to whittle away their best years.

every British girl I ever dated was incapable of cooking, it was always macaroni cheese or spaghetti bolognese. I didn't have my first gf who was able to cook until I started dating foreigners, all of which were good cooks. I don't expect a girl to do all my cooking as I love cooking too, but I see it as something all women should be able to do. Women would equally complain about a man who can't change a tyre.




Your original comment said with your ex-British gfs it would only ever be 'macaroni cheese or spaghetti bolognese'. You did not state that it was microwaveable pot noodles or whatever you've now jumped to, to save yourself. Spaghetti bolognese is championed by Italians as a decent meal in its own right. Macaroni cheese can, also be cooked from scratch at home. Just because these dishes aren't to your liking, doesn't mean that making them doesn't constitute 'cooking'.

Cooking for a woman is something their mothers should teach them as part of becoming a woman and raising her sexual market value. For a man it is a show of independence. This is why you cannot equate the two. However in modern Britain we are increasingly seeing men who are on the whole more adept at cooking than women. Don't you see a problem with this?

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Oh my god, you must be a troll with this.

@Achaea get a load of this guy!!

It should have been obvious from my tone what I meant. I am talking about macaroni cheese which comes in a box and spaghetti bolognese that comes in a jar. The Italians make their own from scratch. The cheap and easy version is dog food at best. If I was to talk about the single mothers I know then this is even worse, feeding them packets of crisps for dinner.

Cooking for a woman is something their mothers should teach them as part of becoming a woman and raising her sexual market value. For a man it is a show of independence. This is why you cannot equate the two. However in modern Britain we are increasingly seeing men who are on the whole more adept at cooking than women. Don't you see a problem with this?

Find me a man who would not prefer his partner to be able to cook, given the choice.