One in ten UK workers are not British

Ok but we can't increase the price of delivering food or the wage of a cleaner to £15 an hour so that a white national comes and does it?

With less immigration, housing prices would decrease, that would compensate the inflation in everyday products.



Why do you need to keep mentioning the colour of their skin? You have white immigrants paid the minimum wage and black ones paid £50K. I would prefer to only admit the latter.

True. But by the same token a British bricklayer earning 15 quid an hour can't compete with a Polish bricklayer and do it for 7 quid an hour.

Who was doing the jobs before the migrants then?

So...what's the issue?

Damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Also have you heard of the Atlantic slave trade?

Isn't it better to have our perfectly well trained university graduates actually do the job of the black person earning 50K? We all know that graduate unemployment is very high so why only the one that earns 50K. I think you are confused into thinking that just because they earn loads that they can then spend a lot/fuel consumer demand.

Currently, the UK is benefitting much more from low skilled immigrants than from high skilled immigrants for most professions.

Why must they earn £15 though? It is not a particularly high skilled job so why do they need to? What about those who earn £15 now... what should they earn? By saying this you are suggesting we increase the wages of every profession just so a British person gets off their sofa and goes to work. How about just cutting down on benefits and encouraging people to apply for jobs and not just increasing their wages.

Didn't know there were slave plantations in Britain.




Graduate unemployement exists because too many people go in higher education, because many technical jobs are taken by migrants.

If there were plenty of low-skilled jobs paid £15 per hour, you can bet that you would have much less people going to uni. Alas, these jobs are taken by Poles for £7 per hour...

Well, actually it is quite a skilled job. But that's beside the point.

Wages are driven by supply and demand. When supply suddenly increases (especially if caused by temporary migrant workers that can afford to work for less) that drives down rates. Suddenly, our British bricklayer who has a house and car he bought based on earning $15/hr can't pay his mortgage or his car loan because the rate he's forced to work at is now $7/hr

No. I'm absolutely NOT suggesting that the government somehow intervenes to ensure the wages of every profession are attractive enough to get people off the sofa. And yes, I agree with you that benefits could be trimmed to encourage some to get off their backsides. But there's no arguing the ill effects of migration on some workers resulting from the simple effects of market forces.

Under the British empire there was slavery.

Under the British empire there was slavery.

Please tell me why low skilled jobs need to be £15 per hour in the first place? Many people go to university and spend 3 years at uni so that they can earn 15£ per hour. Why does a low skilled job need to earn £15? Those who invest in education and training should be rewarded with a high wage. Not someone who leaves after their GCSEs.

I agree with you now but what I was saying was if you pay a bricklayer £15 then someone who currently earns £15 will ask for a pay rise too since they probably went through a decent amount of training to earn a relatively high wage of £15 per hour. Therefore, if they ask for a high wage then this will continue and everyone will demand a greater wage.

why is that a problem :/ isn't it a good thing that they're actually working?

Above all, you cannot go and colonise half the world and expect their not to be consequences. Most of these immigrants had their nations robbed of anything and everything and its still happening now. British companies are exploiting Africa for even more diamonds, gold and cocoa. India's development was also stalled due to the actions of the British Empire. You can't expect the nationals of these countries to just live on nothing whilst the British live off what originally belonged to their nation.

Yes, but slaves didn't take the job of British workers, did they?



People should be paid at the market price, according to the supply and demand rule. They shouldn't be paid more because they have a degree, how sick is that?