The UK's 'brimstone missiles' haven't killed any ISIS militants in Syria

I'm not saying in any way that body count measures success.

Yet so far they haven't been used effectively once

Then why make up lies like the quote below?



You are clearly putting forward the opinion that unless we're killing lots of people the weapons can't be effective. That opinion is complete balls.

The weapons are plenty effective when used against certain targets as they have been.

By effectively I mean in the regard of killing off the ISIS militants

By effectively I mean in the regard of killing off the ISIS militants

Why?

Why do you assume that that's the only use of these weapons? Why is that the only measure you mark the weapons against? When has that ever been the stated aim of the Government or the RAF?

Because the original argument put up by Britain was that the brimstone missiles are extremely effective in taking out terrorists and avoiding civilian casualties. "fire-and-forget" use against mass formations of enemy armour" that's the 'special quality' of Britain's involvement here, yet they are clearly not being used for terrorist casualties, therefore why can't France or the US or even one of the Middle Eastern countries just bomb the oil regularly with their own bombs instead of focusing on this nonsensical propaganda that Britain's brimstone missiles are ultra valuable.

Those two arguments are not related.

They are being used against enemy formations when suitable - ie, when collateral damage must be kept to a minimum. They are not being used when other, cheaper weapons would be just as effective.

Brimstone was only a small part of the reason we got involved over Syria, the larger part was the Tornado's RAPTOR pod, a reconnaissance tool that betters the options available to other air forces. Of course, you ignored that at the time because it wasn't sexy or about blowing stuff up.

Brimstone wasn't a reason to get involved. It was the promise that we are doing everything we can to limit civilian casualties when we go into action. That's why it was lauded.

There is the added point that of the 3 aircraft types we have that are doing the bombing over Syria and Iraq only one can currently use the Brimstone.

You're barking up the wrong tree and making a pig's ear of it.

Nonetheless, our efforts are not helping resolve the Syrian Civil War

How do you know?

How much time have you spent on the ground? How much study have you done on the subject? Your comments in this and other threads suggest you don't really know what you're talking about, so why should we listen to your opinions?

Misrepresenting your sources and lying are not the best ways to improve your limited credibility, you know. There are ways to use weapons that don't involve killing, and destroying money-making infrastructure is, arguably, a better long-term use of the weapon than killing individuals.

Don't reply to my threads, you started similar antics on another of my threads and you stopped responding when I made my reply. So give me one reason not to block you.

They're being found out.

I'm not saying in any way that body count measures success. I'm just saying that the argument made that Britain has unique, high demand missiles which the French and Americans want to see in action was ludicrous, and the tories pretty much just wanted to contribute to bombing so that they would appeal to the rest of the coalition against ISIS.

Err NO. There were several reasons why we were asked to join amd it wasnt just becayse of brimstone missiles. they arent likely to ause ISIS casualties if they were aimed at infrastructure. The missiles remain unique in terms of their capabilities.

You wouldn't know what effective use of munitions was if it slapped you in the face.

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Very true. The RAF has waged a campaign in which only seven people have been killed, all of them of the enemy's forces, in which strategic IS infrastructure and assets have been destroyed or removed from the war effort. Who would be against that?

So yes, this episode is one of many that is quite curious in terms of the reaction of these people and what it says about their true form

Tory idiot.