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Why is the LGBT community so accepting of Islam?

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Original post by Leukocyte
Not really. There are different treatments for homosexuals within Islam. All madhabs say that the gay acts are unlawful but there are differences in terms of penalty so no they should not be killed.


Is this not a case of takhayyur?
Original post by The Epicurean
Is this not a case of takhayyur?


There is nothing wrong with following a particular school of thought.
They probably know what it feels like to be persecuted for something which you can't control :smile:
[QUOTE=Josb;62864345]LGBTs supporting Muslims is just gross. They should also demonstrate against Naziphobia, since Nazis are a marginalised group, they may have wrong beliefs but many are kind and don't act on it - right?

Supporting Muslims or supporting Islam? Not all Muslims have the same view towards homosexuals
Original post by Leukocyte
There is nothing wrong with following a particular school of thought.


Doesn't this negate your previous comment where you seem to be implying that because there is difference of opinions, one can pick and choose? Do you believe one must follow their specific madhab on every ruling?
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Original post by SirAlexFerguson
They probably know what it feels like to be persecuted for something which you can't control :smile:


You choose to be Muslim, you don't choose to be gay.
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Original post by teenhorrorstory
Supporting Muslims or supporting Islam? Not all Muslims have the same view towards homosexuals


Indeed, some Muslims think they should be killed, others - the so called moderates - just say that they are wrong (and spread STDs).
Lol wait so you want them to be more unaccepting and hating towards Muslims?

That is basically absolutely what you are implying and that makes you an absolute sickening person.

Must be a right-winger.
Original post by The Epicurean
Doesn't this negate your previous comment where you seem to be implying that because there is difference of opinions, one can pick and choose? Do you believe one must follow their specific madhab on every ruling?


Stop trying to change my original stance on this matter. I have nothing against homosexuals which is why I corrected QE2 and said the above. What I'm trying to say is that there are differences. Two schools of thought say that they should be severely punished whereas Hanafi school of thought say no physical punishment should be warranted.
Well some Muslims follow a particular school of thought in every situation or ruling but some don't.
Nothing wrong with following a specific madhab like I previously mentioned whether that applies to every ruling.
For example some people pray differently, this depends on which school of thought they follow.
Original post by Josb
You choose to be Muslim, you don't choose to be gay.


Im pretty sure if you go ask a random Muslim or any religious person if they could leave their religion they would say no, because once you get into it, it forms part of your identity and plays a part in your thought process thus I disagree with you :smile:
Original post by Leukocyte
Stop trying to change my original stance on this matter. I have nothing against homosexuals which is why I corrected QE2 and said the above. What I'm trying to say is that there are differences. Two schools of thought say that they should be severely punished whereas Hanafi school of thought say no physical punishment should be warranted.
Well some Muslims follow a particular school of thought in every situation or ruling but some don't.
Nothing wrong with following a specific madhab like I previously mentioned whether that applies to every ruling.
For example some people pray differently, this depends on which school of thought they follow.


I'm not trying to change your stance. I am only trying to figure out where you stand on the matter as your original post was vague.

You say there is nothing wrong with following a particular school. Would you equally argue that there is nothing wrong with picking and choosing?
Original post by Inexorably
Lol wait so you want them to be more unaccepting and hating towards Muslims?

That is basically absolutely what you are implying and that makes you an absolute sickening person.

Must be a right-winger.


Can you not read? The title says "Why are they accepting of Islam?"; there's a big difference. Islam is an ideology that isn't tolerant of the 'LGBT community' and that's a fact. Never in this thread have I implied they should be more unaccepting and hating towards Muslims as individuals.
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Original post by The Epicurean
I'm not trying to change your stance. I am only trying to figure out where you stand on the matter as your original post was vague.

You say there is nothing wrong with following a particular school. Would you equally argue that there is nothing wrong with picking and choosing?


It depends.
Original post by Inexorably
Lol wait so you want them to be more unaccepting and hating towards Muslims?

That is basically absolutely what you are implying and that makes you an absolute sickening person.

Must be a right-winger.


>Uses Illogical argument that attacks personal character rather than engaging in educational debate.

Must be a left-winger.
[QUOTE=Leukocyte;62865941]It depends.

On?
Original post by SirAlexFerguson
They probably know what it feels like to be persecuted for something which you can't control :smile:


Religion isn't something that one can't control about oneself, unless one lives in a state where changing one's religion is punishable by law (or, in some cases, by vigilantism on the part of families or village elders).
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Original post by teenhorrorstory
On?


I don't know really. I want Epicurean to give an example.
About picking and choosing - that could cover a whole range of topics which is why I can't give a sharp answer.
[QUOTE=Leukocyte;62866109]I don't know really. I want Epicurean to give an example.
About picking and choosing - that could cover a whole range of topics which is why I can't give a sharp answer.

Well, can you yourself think of an example where it'd be okay to 'pick and choose'?
Original post by Lady Comstock
So does politics. Are you suggesting a socialist cannot stop being a socialist?


Possibly :smile:

Maybe the case law and statutory law regarding Religion and Philosophical belief can enlighten you :smile:

These are the rules in which a philosophical belief can be protected by law:

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The belief must be genuinely held.

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It must be a belief and not just an opinion or point of view, and it must be based on the current information available.

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It must be a belief and a real and valued aspect of human life and behaviour.

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It should achieve a certain level of seriousness, continuity and importance.

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It must be worthy of respect in a democratic society, compatible with human dignity and the fundamental rights of others.

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So yes, that is basically what I am suggesting! There are cases where peoples political beliefs have constituted a belief to be protected as it forms part of their lives. Look at cases such as Redfearn v UK and GMB v Henderson.
Original post by Hydeman
Religion isn't something that one can't control about oneself, unless one lives in a state where changing one's religion is punishable by law (or, in some cases, by vigilantism on the part of families or village elders).


Strongly disagree, a Christian/Muslim/Jew/Hindu/Sikh etc who is into their religion to the extent to which it forms part of them - it is no longer something they can control :smile: You can't just stop being a Jew when you believe you Judaism as you conscience won't allow it.

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