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Why don't the Calais Jungle refugees claim asylum in France?

I am genuinely interested why they don't do this, and why instead of claiming asylum in a perfectly safe and civilised country they live in destitution and risk their lives trying to cross the Channel. Even if they hate France for some reason, why don't they cross the (more accessible) land border into Belgium or Spain and claim asylum there?

I think you would need a pretty significant reason to live in destitution and risk your life trying to enter Britain illegally rather than claim asylum in France.
To live successfully, and prosperously in France, it is a "requirement" that one be knowledgeable or at least have an interest in all things French - language, art, history and culture.

The British are much more laid back and are generally more interested in work ethic, which most migrants possess in abundance.


To put it simplistically, the Brits will think that, in some respects, you are inferior (but will value and reward your work) whilst the French will put on their airs and graces and force you to accept that your entire culture is inferior.
Reply 2
Because they want to go to the UK.
Because France is a dangerous war-torn third-world country who don't treat people like human.
Original post by Lady Comstock
I am genuinely interested why they don't do this, and why instead of claiming asylum in a perfectly safe and civilised country they live in destitution and risk their lives trying to cross the Channel. Even if they hate France for some reason, why don't they cross the (more accessible) land border into Belgium or Spain and claim asylum there?

I think you would need a pretty significant reason to live in destitution and risk your life trying to enter Britain illegally rather than claim asylum in France.


They do not wish to claim asylum. They wish to work in the black economy.


There were 25,771 asylum applications from main applicants in the year ending June 2015



Most applications for asylum are made by those already in the country (90% of applications) rather than by people at their time of arriving in the UK at a port. Applicants tend to be young and male


Asylum is something you only claim when you are caught.

In one quarter last year 192 Bangladeshis sought asylum, 1 Finn, 1 Aussie, 1 Canadian, 5 from Brazil, 103 Chinese, 1 Czechs, 759 Eritreans, 2 Estonian, 1 German, 33 Ghanians, 209 Indians, 31 Jamaicans, 1 South Korean,13 Kenyans, 6 Latvians, 1 Dutch, 188 Nigerians, 25 Poles, 1 Portuguese , 12 Saudi Arabians, 12 South Africans, 1 from St Lucia, 384 Syrians, 7 Americans, 124 Vietnamese and 53 Zimbabweans amongst others. The total that quarter were 6203 of whom 54 were fleeing persecution in the EU.
Why would anybody prefer to live in France (especially under a Hollande government) over the UK?
How do UK benefits compare to France? It is often cited as a reason.
Reply 7
They don't claim asylum in France because Britain is seen as 'the land of opportunity'. It's silly really, as what France offers migrants is hardly dissmilar to the benefits that they would receive if they came to Britain.

I recommend this article; http://news.sky.com/story/1528542/asylum-seekers-why-they-come-to-uk-and-france
Original post by TheArtofProtest
The British are much more laid back and are generally more interested in work ethic, which most migrants possess in abundance.


I won't lie, I kek'd
Reply 9
Original post by caravaggio2
How do UK benefits compare to France? It is often cited as a reason.


Don't worry, we throw benefits even more than you do to our third world immigrants.

They want to go to the UK because you don't need ID there, whilst in France a passport/ID is needed for pretty much everything.
Reply 10
Original post by TheArtofProtest
To live successfully, and prosperously in France, it is a "requirement" that one be knowledgeable or at least have an interest in all things French - language, art, history and culture.

The British are much more laid back and are generally more interested in work ethic, which most migrants possess in abundance.


To put it simplistically, the Brits will think that, in some respects, you are inferior (but will value and reward your work) whilst the French will put on their airs and graces and force you to accept that your entire culture is inferior.


Pure drivel.

First of all, why is it wrong that a migrant to a country should possess knowledge and interest in said country. Can you really expect to flourish in a culture and environment built on thousands of years of history, language and art you choose to remain ignorant of? How completely absurd.

The British are much more laid back and are generally more interested in work ethic, which most migrants possess in abundance.

Wtf does any of this mean? Who are you to claim that British people are generally laid back and that most migrants possess work ethic? If British and French people are so radically different then how on Earth can 'migrants' as a whole from over 100 countries all be the same in the sense that they have high work ethic? This claim truly is a form of doublethink.

'British people' hardly think of ourselves as superior to others. Our entire national character revels in self-depreciation and seeing ourselves as bumbling fools.

And lastly, quite frankly some cultures are superior than others. Cultures that stone and behead children for accidentally breaking religious laws or listening to 'western music' (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-militants-behead-15-year-old-ayham-hussein-listening-music-1544504) are truly inferior and deserve to be expulsed like the cancer they are.

The only reason migrants want to come to the UK is because France hasn't seen the economic growth that the UK has experienced. French unemployment remains above 10% while ours is at a ten year low of 5%. Those in Calais are nothing but economic migrants.
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Original post by Roofas
Pure drivel.

First of all, why is it wrong that a migrant to a country should possess knowledge and interest in said country. Can you really expect to flourish in a culture and environment built on thousands of years of history, language and art you choose to remain ignorant of? How completely absurd.

The British are much more laid back and are generally more interested in work ethic, which most migrants possess in abundance.

Wtf does any of this mean? Who are you to claim that British people are generally laid back and that most migrants possess work ethic? If British and French people are so radically different then how on Earth can 'migrants' as a whole from over 100 countries all be the same in the sense that they have high work ethic? This claim truly is a form of doublethink.

'British people' hardly think of ourselves as superior to others. Our entire national character revels in self-depreciation and seeing ourselves as bumbling fools.

And lastly, quite frankly some cultures are superior than others. Cultures that stone and behead children for accidentally breaking religious laws or listening to 'western music' (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/isis-militants-behead-15-year-old-ayham-hussein-listening-music-1544504) are truly inferior and deserve to be expulsed like the cancer they are.

The only reason migrants want to come to the UK is because France hasn't seen the economic growth that the UK has experienced. French unemployment remains above 10% while ours is at a ten year low of 5%. Those in Calais are nothing but economic migrants.


The only relevant line from your diatribe of a post is your final one and it is one where I feel we very much agree on.

Yes, most of them are solely economic migrants (In fact, my post alludes to this), and not "wanting-to-immerse-themselves-in-French/British-Culture" migrants.

They want work (in all manner of jobs) but without losing their cultural values and that is why they want to come and work in the UK, which has a more laid back attitude to foreigners assimilating into the "national culture", as opposed to the French, who have come to regard it as a "must".

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