scientific reasons for believing in god?

I don't play games
believing is a choice
you can believe in anything

look at the sky, doesnt that make you think
that maybe you should be feeling the presence of God
instead of wanting to see him with your eyes

That is pure unadulterated crap usually termed delusion.

or
maybe i see the world different to you
i can say the same about you not believing in God lol
but i respect your views
maybe you should respect mine?

I don't play games
believing is a choice
you can believe in anything

look at the sky, doesnt that make you think
that maybe you should be feeling the presence of God
instead of wanting to see him with your eyes

why are u writing like a poem

or
maybe i see the world different to you
i can say the same about you not believing in God lol
but i respect your views
maybe you should respect mine?

why are u writing like a poem

Yes it does seem that you can "believe in anything"....

Please explain the sky comment...I'm quite lost

I suspect because it adds a "Godlike" quality to the writing. Therefore adding more weight to the psuedo-logical argument.

That is not what I disagreed with. And I never said I didn't believe in God. You need to be careful with language and assumptions.

look at the sky, doesnt that make you think
that maybe you should be feeling the presence of God
instead of wanting to see him with your eyes

In my experience it's useless arguing.

These cults have thousands of years of the cleverest minds working out pseudo logical smokescreens for even the most difficult and logical of arguments against them. They, in effect, have it all wrapped up.

There is no logical or scientific argument that you can present to the contrary of these cults which they cannot refute with one platitude or another. They have better defence than Floyd Mayweather.

or maybe you should stop calling other peoples beliefs
"pure unadulterated crap usually termed delusion"

yeah but "experiences" have no scientific merit or way of proving their validity. i've prayed and nothing has happened, if god wanted me to believe in him why isn't he showing me he exists?

What does make me feel the presence of God is when I look at the pestilence, oppression, and sheer waste of the human race. Countries fighting each other with weapons. Children starving and dying agonising deaths from appalling diseases every second. People being born in pain with disfigured limbs. Tornados ripping apart whole communities.

Oh sorry, I forgot. That's man's fault. Not God's. That's because of free will and original sin, right?

But if the argument goes quiet because we finally think to ourselves "ahhhh forgetttitttt" then can you imagine the potential for these ideas to propagate?

So once again.

If I tell you I believe in Santa Claus, what's your response?

So once again.

If I tell you I believe in Santa Claus, what's your response?

mans fault yes
original sin no

oh well good try

Off topic but good avatar. I have a pic of Arthur Daley on the wall in my office. Class.