Gove tells a string of fibs in his "why we should leave the EU" statement

He didn't say I am going to wait to see if there is damage and then move.

You claimed we'd have no mechanism to co-operate with Europe if we left the EU.
I proved your statement to be patently false. The EU is not required for us to co-operate with Europe. I've made nothing up; that's a straw man on your part.

Why on earth would u want to be governed and bound by unelected people who you wouldnt even recognise if you walked past them in the street and who's interests are not the UK's?

He equally didn't say that he wouldn't.

I think you are choosing to ignore the Could mentioned multiple times throughout the article.

You've also totally ignored the:

Any decision to move those jobs would depend on the terms of a British exit from the EU, including the extent to which the UK could continue to access the financial services 'passporting' regime, which allows member states to trade seamlessly across national borders, Mr Gulliver said.

Which again gives weight to the understanding that jobs wouldn't automatically move entirely based on just an Out-Vote.. as you've tried to suggest they would.

Yes, in the situation that there COULD be damage to HSBC then he would move jobs.

He didn't say I am going to wait to see if there is damage and then move.

I said you have no evidence that Britain would have any mechanism on how we would cooperate on common issues such as Energy once we leave the EU.

I didn't say after we leave the EU, the world is coming to end and all cooperation will cease.

It's exactly what he is saying though...

He said that in the event of brexit there COULD be damage. IF there is damage there would be jobs moved. Tell me how exactly they determine if there is any damage without waiting to see if there is any damage.

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You are choosing to take the "could" out of context.

Again ironic because thats exactly what you seem to be doing to me

The fact that the UK is still able to co-operate with European nations on a wide range of issue without any input of the EU?

Well, I think we are just reading the same thing in different ways. That is all.

1) Who are those unelected people?

2) What exactly is governing and binding you right now that you don't like?

Perhaps. But then I'm not trying to use what we've proven to be an extremely subjective comment as proof of a certainty...

Pretty sure s/he didn't state that as s/he's already made fairly clear.

You've confused "cooperation with Europe will be harder" with "there is no possible way to cooperate with Europe" and bashed the latter down.

What was that about a straw man?

Again, that is not mechanism on how it will happen.

Saying that the UK will magically cooperate does not replace not being part of EU institutions on energy, finance and etc.

You consider the concepts of diplomacy and negotiation to be magic?

No, he didn't say that.

He did not say "IF there is damage" then they will move.

He said since there could be damage, they would move.

Well, you just state the words as if that means that it will magically lead to the same level of Cooperation.

Saying negotiation and diplomacy does not provide a framework for us to exert the same amount of influence within these organisations once we are outside it.

TeeEm's right… but then again… a very large majority of people in the country are of the opinion that Gove is a moronic idiot anyway so I doubt his opinion carries much weight…