Why is being a feminist considered to be so bad?

already addressed the fact that "free the nipple" is literally 0.001% of feminism.

as for the parental leave issue...
seriously, the woman is the one who carried the baby inside her for 9 months and has to endure all the horrific changes to her body during and after pregnancy. I do support men and women having the same amount of parental leave, but I don't think the current situation is unreasonable either. the father did not have to carry the child and work whilst doing so

There is a rape culture.

I can't tell you the amount of times I've heard the phrase "she deserves to get raped". When people ask what woman was wearing, that is part of a rape culture. The pay gap is real, women literally earn less per hour and are in less executive positions.

How can you be so misogynistic as to suggest that freeing the nipple isn't an important subject. You talk about it and disregard it like it is nothing. You are proving to us WHY we need feminism.

I hear about it all the time, just because you choose not to listen to it or look for it, doesn't mean it isn't there.

Also you talk about only women putting up a fight over the fact they get more parental leave, but it is literally MEN who have imposed this on them because it is MEN who have forced women to reside in stay at home roles in history which is why their parental leave is so much higher, not to mention the fact that when men fight against the unfair parental leave rights, that is an act of feminism also. It is actually sexist towards women that they do get more parental leave because it is suggesting their roles are in the home.

And someone made a good point - you seem to assume that women everywhere have the same rights?

When was the last time they did something about that? Obviously in some countries it is needed.
I am talking about the western world what rights do they have that men don't?
In the western world they have spent more time trying to free the nipple and destroy free speech

saying you are a feminist implies belief that all females are oppressed by all males across the world, and that this is achieved by an ill-defined "patriarchy"; it implies that you believe in a rape culture, and that you believe we "objectify" women in the West. To some extent it implies a belief in white male "privilege".
Intersectional feminism is perhaps my least favourite part of the movement. It tells people who aren't white or male that they are inherently disadvantaged by the system, without evidence or even any reasonable attempt at some sort of nebulous justification.

That's something that really disgusts me, when people try to turn it around so it looks like it was someone's fault that they were raped. People are allowed to dress the way they want. They could be out completely naked and that is not a sign that they were wanting to be raped...

When was the last time feminists talked about how females outnumber males in universities?

When was the last time feminists talked about the courts being more lenient on them?

When was the last time they talked about the preferential treatment they get in family courts?

When was the last time they talked about the lack of funding for male domestic abuse resources?

Not all feminists are campaigning for the nipple to be freed,many are fighting for real issues that will actually create an impact and better the lives of women in countries where they face systematic and social discrimination. I agree with you that some 3rd wave feminists don't care about the important stuff,and do come across as misandrist, but it's frustrating to see people letting that corrupt what feminism actually is.

When was the last time feminists talked about how females outnumber males in universities?
When was the last time feminists talked about the courts being more lenient on them?
When was the last time they talked about the preferential treatment they get in family courts?
When was the last time they talked about the lack of funding for male domestic abuse resources?

not sure which feminists you are getting this from but a quick follow of a good few feminists on twitter for example should reveal to you that most of us ramble on non stop about both male and female abuse survivors, rape of all forms (male-male, male-female, female-male, female-female and anything else), a recent BBC news article also announced funding for a new men's shelter for domestic abuse victims because it realised that male victims were wrongfully being under-recognised.
courts are not necessarily more lenient on women, as indicated by the recent Kesha case despite actual inappropriate tweets from Dr Luke's own twitter account suggesting that he is guilty.

I know that feminism is supposed to be about equality and people say it still is but to me I believe that feminism has moved on in the 3rd wave beyond that and that is what is given feminism a bad name and because of that I can't see it as being for true equality.

I know that feminism is supposed to be about equality and people say it still is but to me I believe that feminism has moved on in the 3rd wave beyond that and that is what is given feminism a bad name and because of that I can't see it as being for true equality.

This thread has actually riled me, the attitudes coming from the anti-feminists here upset me. I just don't understand how someone can NOT oppose that kind of behaviour?

JOECPHILIPS:

"When was the last time feminists talked about how females outnumber males in universities?
When was the last time feminists talked about the courts being more lenient on them?
When was the last time they talked about the preferential treatment they get in family courts?
When was the last time they talked about the lack of funding for male domestic abuse resources?"

We talk about these subjects all the time, but I think you look too widely on them. Maybe females outnumber males in universities, yet there is a male dominance in universities where women are sexual abuse and rape targets in lad culture cults.

Stop using "feminists" to describe women, feminists are men and women. And that is simply NOT true.

Again, you seem to be describing feminists as just women. Why should women not get preferential treatment in family courts when they have bore the child - it never is "unfair". Sometimes it is questionable and maybe it isn't ideal, but it isn't necessarily preferential.

The lack of funding for male domestic abuse resources boils down to sexism towards women, because apparently men are not "supposed" to get raped, and if they do then they are pushed not to talk about their issue due to the damaging lad culture which would paint them as "weak, girly and emotionally unstable." As a victim of rape my self, I think I can talk about this with some qualification on the subject as a male victim.

So you are just going to generalise all feminists on something only a minority of people who claim to be feminists have said?

There is 1 shelter for men how many for women?
The kesha case was correctly decided. Why do you think it wasn't and please provide actual evidence not emotional arguments most people have provided.

I entirely understand your reasons for not seeing feminism as a move for equality. but you're essentially letting a group of misandrists/extremists distort your view on a whole movement that consists of more than just those extremists.
that's like if I saw a group of dogs mauling someone and decided that dogs are inherently violent and evil.
just because some women hate men or rarely talk about issues that "matter" does not render feminism an invalid idea. similarly, a lot of men hate women but that does not mean there aren't any who respect women.
I sound like the typical "not-all-men" type person now but I hope I'm getting the point across.

As I have said that is how I see feminism, based on what I have seen if other feminists who view things differently want to show what they are about they have to fight for the label back

So why is it overblowing and made to be seen as if it is the worst thing anyone could be? What is so bad about wanting to have equal rights for males and females?

Any Thoughts?

I don't think I've ever read such nonsense in my lifetime.
1) where did you get the "all females are oppressed by all males across the world"? I doubt anyone has ever said that.
2) rape culture is absolutely real. it is not prevalent in every corner and community of the world, but you can see it simply by frequenting the news (BBC) and social media.
3) please don't tell me you don't believe in white male privilege. especially in the west.
4) non-white-males, for example women of colour, ARE indeed disadvantaged. no, not in every single person's case. as with anything, there are plenty of exceptions. I am not implying that every non-white-male is going to be in a position inferior to every white male. but, "without evidence"? is the suffering of black people in 1st AND 3rd world countries not evidence enough for you? the inexplicable disappearances and murders of black and trans folk? what more evidence could you possibly want.

whoa I said they're developing a new men's shelter, I didn't say it was the first in the world believe it or not, the world consists of more than just whatever city you live in.

here's a link to Dr Luke's tweet. he's deleted some other ones but, when people responded with disgust to this tweet, he also said something along the lines of "I bet you wish it was you".

https://twitter.com/TheDoctorLuke/status/8651830104

what exactly is your evidence for believing the case was correctly decided lmao? if there is no concrete evidence for him being guilty or innocent, then the case shouldn't have gone either way.