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Original post by aiphoszh
I applied to UCL, Bath and Sheffield too. I got offers from bath and Sheffield and rejected by UCL. At first I was disappointed but after going to an open day at Bath I realised that the course is not 'maths and science' but just practical, whereas UCL is more conceptual. You can still be creative at Bath it's just they encourage thinking about how the building would actually work. But if you are really set on going to UCL it would be good to do a foundation course and reapply.


Well done on your offers!! Baths my top choice but no offer yet:/ Can I ask if you're an international student?
Original post by sambeech
I got an offer a few hours after posting to TSR, for A*AA. Delighted as Bath will be my first choice and is my favourite! I am predicted AAA and got AAA last year - so am capable of A*AA. Have you heard back yet?


No I haven't :/ predicted 38 for IB so I really hope I get in. When did you apply?
Original post by aiphoszh
I applied to UCL, Bath and Sheffield too. I got offers from bath and Sheffield and rejected by UCL. At first I was disappointed but after going to an open day at Bath I realised that the course is not 'maths and science' but just practical, whereas UCL is more conceptual. You can still be creative at Bath it's just they encourage thinking about how the building would actually work. But if you are really set on going to UCL it would be good to do a foundation course and reapply.


Thanks for replying and Congrats! :smile: What is your first choice? Yeah ive read from other threads about how firms hate it when fresh graduates are unrealistic and do not think about how the building will actually work, and thats not one of Bath's qualities.
Original post by aiphoszh
I applied to UCL, Bath and Sheffield too. I got offers from bath and Sheffield and rejected by UCL. At first I was disappointed but after going to an open day at Bath I realised that the course is not 'maths and science' but just practical, whereas UCL is more conceptual. You can still be creative at Bath it's just they encourage thinking about how the building would actually work. But if you are really set on going to UCL it would be good to do a foundation course and reapply.


how long did Bath take to respond?
Original post by lora9704
Hey guys, international applicant so need a little help here. Ive applied to UCL Bath Sheffield and Edinburgh around Jan, received offer from Bath (which i was totally not expecting.. im more of an artsy type, thought i would fit UCL better), but was rejected from Bartlett (they said my task wasnt good enough for an interview), which is quite upsetting because i dont think my task was THAT BAD and i got an A* for art. Quite reluctant to go Bath, considering its more 'maths and science' aspect, but nevertheless its still a very prestigious school.
I do have another option tho, is to accpet my place for foundation year at central saint martins (very, very, artsy), and try again for Bartlett. I know that sounds like a silly idea, but i really had my heart set on Bartlett.
What do you guys think? I've never attended any of the open days for any school so i might as well do some visits.
I did the IB and i got 40 points. 7 for Art HL, Math SL and Chinese HL, 6 for Business HL and English Lang Lit SL, and 5 for Physics SL.


100% do Saint Martins!!! Well done for getting in thats incredible and then you can specialise in Architecture after the first term and then Bartlett will love you. I really don't understand why Bath is rated so highly for architecture, I went on an Open Day and it just seemed so mundane and uninspiring, so I didn't apply. Of course, the technicalities and considerations for architecture are so important but they don't teach you how to design a creative and individual piece of art like the Bartlett do. I feel like Part 2 and Work in a practice would be the time to really learn the practicalities and put the skill of architecture and design into actual practice. Bath is bas icing all of this on tiny foundations of skill not yet enhanced. Perhaps a small minded view? I don't know, but I feel like Bartlett is leagues ahead and you should do whatever to get in!
Original post by lora9704
Hey guys, international applicant so need a little help here. Ive applied to UCL Bath Sheffield and Edinburgh around Jan, received offer from Bath (which i was totally not expecting.. im more of an artsy type, thought i would fit UCL better), but was rejected from Bartlett (they said my task wasnt good enough for an interview), which is quite upsetting because i dont think my task was THAT BAD and i got an A* for art. Quite reluctant to go Bath, considering its more 'maths and science' aspect, but nevertheless its still a very prestigious school.
I do have another option tho, is to accpet my place for foundation year at central saint martins (very, very, artsy), and try again for Bartlett. I know that sounds like a silly idea, but i really had my heart set on Bartlett.
What do you guys think? I've never attended any of the open days for any school so i might as well do some visits.
I did the IB and i got 40 points. 7 for Art HL, Math SL and Chinese HL, 6 for Business HL and English Lang Lit SL, and 5 for Physics SL.


You should look at the campuses cause it depends whether you want to go to a campus or live in the city. I went to the open day at Bath and fell in love, the campus is amazing and the studios are really nice. The presentation on the course went against what I thought previously as I think art is still a major part. People have drawn and painted on the walls and the projects from previous years were really good, so it really did look quite artistic but they have the balance between art and technicalities which I feel you need. :smile: Did you do IB and A levels or something? and did bath want you to score any higher?
Original post by gemyerst
You should look at the campuses cause it depends whether you want to go to a campus or live in the city. I went to the open day at Bath and fell in love, the campus is amazing and the studios are really nice. The presentation on the course went against what I thought previously as I think art is still a major part. People have drawn and painted on the walls and the projects from previous years were really good, so it really did look quite artistic but they have the balance between art and technicalities which I feel you need. :smile: Did you do IB and A levels or something? and did bath want you to score any higher?


Yep a visit to Bath and Bartlett is much needed. I did the IB, scored 40 points, with 7 for Art HL, Chinese HL and Math SL, 6 for Business HL and English Lang lit, and 5 for physics (i was predicted a 7). I was really excited and surprised because Bath was the first one to offer me a place... conditional (i applied w predicted) but my grades now meet the requirement. Also because Bath is strict with Math and Physics, and i would say im more of an art person than science, but neverthelesss i can still do maths pretty well. :smile:
Reply 987
I have recently received an email from MSA saying "Your application was amongst the very best we have received and therefore we would like to invite you to attend a Taster Afternoon on Tuesday 8th March from 12.45pm to 4pm."
I guess they sent quite a lot of these, but I was curious whether anyone had any idea what it actually is. Some sort of Open Day?
MSA is my last choice, I do not really like it, but I still take it into consideration; therefore, please PM me if you know anything. :smile:
Original post by georgiaaahg
Manchester or cardiff as a 2nd choice? both AAA. Both decent.


Would say to take up manc definitely. I don't know what you prefer, but it's the larger city out of the two. There's so much to do here, which is important during the formative years of your life especially as an architecture student - you want to expose yourself to all aspects of culture within the arts, music etc.. Plus the facilities and the school is amazing... You'll be working in a proper art school the benefits of which can be felt due to the constant mingling with students from other disciplines.. I'm doing an art foundation at MSA currently and its the best thing. You'll have the best time in Manchester ! :smile:
Original post by lora9704
Yep a visit to Bath and Bartlett is much needed. I did the IB, scored 40 points, with 7 for Art HL, Chinese HL and Math SL, 6 for Business HL and English Lang lit, and 5 for physics (i was predicted a 7). I was really excited and surprised because Bath was the first one to offer me a place... conditional (i applied w predicted) but my grades now meet the requirement. Also because Bath is strict with Math and Physics, and i would say im more of an art person than science, but neverthelesss i can still do maths pretty well. :smile:


Yeah I went to Bartlett to drop my task off and the building is absolutely hideous haha :smile: I do HL physics(6) history(5) and english(6), SL German(7), Spanish(6) and math(6) and AP studio art(4/5). If I just got into Bath I would definitely go there. I went to St Martins for an interview, which was super weird everyone applying had done this thing called a Btec in architecture and all of their portfolios were purely architectural. They told me to do I foundation year and I'd be in the top the following year, but i think 6 years is long enough and I don't want to do an extra year. But if you're really into art, think about it cause everyone else applying there didn't do art or physics or anything too technical :smile:
Original post by lora9704
Hey guys, international applicant so need a little help here. Ive applied to UCL Bath Sheffield and Edinburgh around Jan, received offer from Bath (which i was totally not expecting.. im more of an artsy type, thought i would fit UCL better), but was rejected from Bartlett (they said my task wasnt good enough for an interview), which is quite upsetting because i dont think my task was THAT BAD and i got an A* for art. Quite reluctant to go Bath, considering its more 'maths and science' aspect, but nevertheless its still a very prestigious school.
I do have another option tho, is to accpet my place for foundation year at central saint martins (very, very, artsy), and try again for Bartlett. I know that sounds like a silly idea, but i really had my heart set on Bartlett.
What do you guys think? I've never attended any of the open days for any school so i might as well do some visits.
I did the IB and i got 40 points. 7 for Art HL, Math SL and Chinese HL, 6 for Business HL and English Lang Lit SL, and 5 for Physics SL.


i would recommand you go to open days first, before making any decisions. i thought Bath was very science and technical biased as well, but then i went to the open day and found it actually very artsy...(not as artsy as schools like UCL etc, but definitely more artsy than i thought it would be). but thats my personal opinion tho, so better if u can check it out urself.
if u still feel like UCL is definitely ur thing than i dont see art foundation as a silly idea: it does prepare u well for the course, both the skills and the way you work, as far as you can afford paying for another year.
Original post by lora9704
Hey guys, international applicant so need a little help here. Ive applied to UCL Bath Sheffield and Edinburgh around Jan, received offer from Bath (which i was totally not expecting.. im more of an artsy type, thought i would fit UCL better), but was rejected from Bartlett (they said my task wasnt good enough for an interview), which is quite upsetting because i dont think my task was THAT BAD and i got an A* for art. Quite reluctant to go Bath, considering its more 'maths and science' aspect, but nevertheless its still a very prestigious school.
I do have another option tho, is to accpet my place for foundation year at central saint martins (very, very, artsy), and try again for Bartlett. I know that sounds like a silly idea, but i really had my heart set on Bartlett.
What do you guys think? I've never attended any of the open days for any school so i might as well do some visits.
I did the IB and i got 40 points. 7 for Art HL, Math SL and Chinese HL, 6 for Business HL and English Lang Lit SL, and 5 for Physics SL.


I think you should take up the foundation at CSM. Congrats on getting onto it, it's hard to do so. If you're really that set on the Bartlett, then reapply. Ask the Bartlett for feedback on your application and task so you'll improve on it next year.

Even if you don't end up reapplying to the Bartlett and defer your entry to other universities, doing an art foundation will honestly only be the best thing for you as a young creative. I say this as am I currently doing on rn. You'll take on so many skills through doing various workshops, and your mindset as an artist, creator and designer will also grow. All of this will only be advantageous to your application and also your study as an architect. Architecture schools, especially the Bartlett, also much prefer foundation students! A year is nothing! :smile:

I'm kind of in the same situation. I got rejected from the Bartlett and I am considering reapplying next year. But like I've already mentioned, Ive already taken a year out to do an art foundation so it would be quite illogical to take another year out. Currently have offers from Brighton, Manchester and westminister. As I am from Manchester, I don't really want to stay even though the school is amazing. I would like to move to London, so westminister is my first option but I gathered that their course isn't really aspirational and not for me although their studios are amazing .,. But maybe I am just comparing it to the Bartlett which is stupid!
Original post by LLk1
No news is good news, I am in the same scenario!


haha, hope it will ba a good news. how long have u been waiting?
Original post by gemyerst
Yeah I went to Bartlett to drop my task off and the building is absolutely hideous haha :smile: I do HL physics(6) history(5) and english(6), SL German(7), Spanish(6) and math(6) and AP studio art(4/5). If I just got into Bath I would definitely go there. I went to St Martins for an interview, which was super weird everyone applying had done this thing called a Btec in architecture and all of their portfolios were purely architectural. They told me to do I foundation year and I'd be in the top the following year, but i think 6 years is long enough and I don't want to do an extra year. But if you're really into art, think about it cause everyone else applying there didn't do art or physics or anything too technical :smile:

Applying 'there' as in?
CSM's offer was foundation year as well, which would allow me to explore artistically but i doubt i would commit myself to architecture at CSM, considering not much has been spoken bout CSM except for fashion design.
Good Luck for Bath! HL physics was definitely not easy haha
Original post by nairline
I think you should take up the foundation at CSM. Congrats on getting onto it, it's hard to do so. If you're really that set on the Bartlett, then reapply. Ask the Bartlett for feedback on your application and task so you'll improve on it next year.

Even if you don't end up reapplying to the Bartlett and defer your entry to other universities, doing an art foundation will honestly only be the best thing for you as a young creative. I say this as am I currently doing on rn. You'll take on so many skills through doing various workshops, and your mindset as an artist, creator and designer will also grow. All of this will only be advantageous to your application and also your study as an architect. Architecture schools, especially the Bartlett, also much prefer foundation students! A year is nothing! :smile:

I'm kind of in the same situation. I got rejected from the Bartlett and I am considering reapplying next year. But like I've already mentioned, Ive already taken a year out to do an art foundation so it would be quite illogical to take another year out. Currently have offers from Brighton, Manchester and westminister. As I am from Manchester, I don't really want to stay even though the school is amazing. I would like to move to London, so westminister is my first option but I gathered that their course isn't really aspirational and not for me although their studios are amazing .,. But maybe I am just comparing it to the Bartlett which is stupid!


Thanks for replying! I'm glad that i found someone like you here doing foundation. I have a friend who graduated from Bartlett last year and all she said was the school was simply amazing, but the uni life was tough. She also mentioned that age is not a problem, she was 19 when she attended and she was the youngest among the course.
I also believe that foundation could be beneficial since it opens you up to other creative options... Architecture being very competitive is common knowledge, only a few percent actually goes on to pursue architectural careers.
And yes! London is simply amazing and full of events. Have you tried applying to AA?
Original post by lora9704
Applying 'there' as in?
CSM's offer was foundation year as well, which would allow me to explore artistically but i doubt i would commit myself to architecture at CSM, considering not much has been spoken bout CSM except for fashion design.
Good Luck for Bath! HL physics was definitely not easy haha


Bath haha, thats what they wanted me to do, but I'd be doing no math or physics which I love. I applied to UCL but Im not sure if I want to go there cause student satisfaction was really low and the building was quite ugly, but well see :smile: where did you apply?
Original post by afang02
i would recommand you go to open days first, before making any decisions. i thought Bath was very science and technical biased as well, but then i went to the open day and found it actually very artsy...(not as artsy as schools like UCL etc, but definitely more artsy than i thought it would be). but thats my personal opinion tho, so better if u can check it out urself.
if u still feel like UCL is definitely ur thing than i dont see art foundation as a silly idea: it does prepare u well for the course, both the skills and the way you work, as far as you can afford paying for another year.



Yep, I will visit. If it gets me in the right school, i believe a year is worth it. What is your first choice?
Original post by gemyerst
Bath haha, thats what they wanted me to do, but I'd be doing no math or physics which I love. I applied to UCL but Im not sure if I want to go there cause student satisfaction was really low and the building was quite ugly, but well see :smile: where did you apply?


UCL Bath Edinburgh and Sheffield. i only wanted UCL and Bath, the other two i did just for fun.. Edinburgh havent got back to me yet LOL and Sheffield requested portfolio. My friend who graduated there from Bartlett said its really good, so i dont think it will be that bad. My friend who is studying at UCL now said they are building a new building for architecture, and it looks pretty cool. :smile:
Original post by larra7
I have recently received an email from MSA saying "Your application was amongst the very best we have received and therefore we would like to invite you to attend a Taster Afternoon on Tuesday 8th March from 12.45pm to 4pm."
I guess they sent quite a lot of these, but I was curious whether anyone had any idea what it actually is. Some sort of Open Day?
MSA is my last choice, I do not really like it, but I still take it into consideration; therefore, please PM me if you know anything. :smile:


I went on one for "the very best" as well, they must be doing a few. I think it is to show off the new building to students that they really want to come. There was a talk which wasn't great and wasn't really directed at anything and then a tour and questions and meeting people at the school and the other "very best." I would definitely recommend going because it changed my view that it was second rate and it is actually so impressive. The integration with the art school as well is so impressive.
Original post by lora9704
I've decided to post two of my task submitted to Bartlett just for you guys to see what rejection looks like (jk), its http://florang.weebly.com/art-blog done within 5 and 15 minutes. Personally i really think its okay for an interview, and i feel that Bartletts reason for rejecting ('drawings not at a sufficient level':wink: is pretty vague. I phoned them asking why, they said they cant give 1400 applicants each a reason, which i understand, but still, frustrating.


I have no idea how the Bartlett judge the tasks, but all I would say is it is not innovative or memorable in either technique or approach to the task (i.e what is depicted and how it is). I think they like a personal approach to their brief addressing style and also subject matter that shows personality and flair.

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