Asian sex abusers to be stripped of UK citizenship and deported

What's to stop these people from renouncing their other citizenship while the deportation appeals make their way through the system, thereby making it unlawful to strip them of their British one?

they're probably (hopefully) too stupid to do that.

That's debatable, literally we debate this every on TSR. I also don't agree with you.

It's a simple question what religion will they put on the form when asked?

and I know your point its actually quite obvious (you are form the same community and you follow the same faith) and as I said you proved a point rather nicely.

Not exactly debatable, since when does Islam support such hideous acts?

Not exactly debatable, since when does Islam support such hideous acts?

Not exactly debatable

Why should religion be a concern? As I said it shouldn't be something that matters, this case has no involvement with their faith. Even if they are a Muslim do you think they're doing this because of their faith?

Looks like action will finally be taken over this issue (and about time)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/asian-sex-abusers-to-be-stripped-of-uk-citizenship-and-deported-a6896051.html

As far as I was aware this thread is about a particular case

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a6896051.html

even if it were not it's not a muslim issue its a pakistani one. The two white women were not muslim, so this brings it even further saying its not a pakistani issue it's a rotheram issue.

"here have been plent of recent cases where the culprits were found to be non-asian somali, afgani and turk / iraqi too often working alongside pakistanis."

please stop lying now in the UK turks and arabs count for less than 1% of rapes (thats being generous), there are more indians associated with the rapes than turks and arabs.

Can't speak for Somalians as they fall under black so are represented in the statistics with them.

Indians fall under asian and like it or not that country has a disgusting culture of rape associated with it, it would be unfair to say all rapes labelled "asian" are Pakistanis and that indians are totally innocent (don't see no pakistanis kidnapping and continuously raping a Japanese tourist nor do I hear of gang rape of 14 year olds by soldiers in Pakistan).

but for the particular case brought forward by the OP it is clearly a british-pakistani problem and trying to rope in Arabs and Turks is just like me trying to ascribe the disgusting 93 daily rapes in India to Hindu Sri-lankans who have nothing to do with these rapes.

I'm not denying that there is a problem with rape in the islamic community, this has been highlighted by the scumbags in germany.

It would be simply retarded to put Indians on a pedestal acting as though they could not possibly rape anyone. Accept that a huge proportion of Indians have a culture of rape just as much as those muslim migrants do.

with regards to this OP though it is clearly a british-pakistani problem. Whites, Bangladeshis and Indians are all equally represented here.

Not debatable?

Good to see that you are not on TSR that much and are out there in the real world living your life.

Sex slavery:

https://islamqa.info/en/10382

Sex with children:

https://islamqa.info/en/22442

As I have asked and you still haven't answered what religion will they put on their prison forms?

But your reply was obvious (no I didn't have to look at your profile) as most people show at least a little modicum of concern for the victims before trying to claim it has nothing to do with a certain 'religion'. .

It seems one group of people however can be very predictable in their replies when issues like this are concerned (you are a case in point you can't even bring yourself to write the word 'Islam' in reply to a simple question.)

As has been said before, the problem here is mostly culture (for once). And it should be a concern because it's a brainless approach to law enforcement to aim only to punish it when it happens rather than try to make sure that it never happens in the first place. The latter requires that the motives and drivers be scrutinised.

You're clearly not reading the word "marriage" stated numerous times. So how does this case link with Islam? You still haven't explained. You're sending links of websites and expecting me to accept this as your argument?

the term 'asian' does not and never applies to them, these people are always referred to as middle eastern. turkey may even be regarded as part of europe in a few years time.

You may have some strange codified usage among your circle of friends but in general usage anyone from an Asian country can reasonably be described as Asian. The more limiting descriptions (such as Middle East, Arabian, central Asian, south Asian, oriental) are used to narrow things down, of course, but if someone says Asian you should assume they mean from anywhere in Asia unless you are told otherwise.

it isnt really 'asian' though is it, thats just lazy journalism. most ppl with more than 2 braincells know that asian isnt an intelligent description for these ppl seeing as its not sri lankan, indian, nepalese, chinese, japanese burmese thai etc in general involved in this. I think the most common name amoung the many guys that have been convicted in a number of different cases is Mohammed so Its pretty obvious that the culprits who in most cases have background of a specific faith, from countries like somalia, pakistan, iraq, afganistan, turkish kurds etc

You realise Pakistan is in South Asia and a majority of the attackers were Pakistani right? looooooool

Sureeeee you didn't have to look at my profile, I wasn't even discussing their ethnic backgrounds and somehow guessed my ethnic background.

You've got no argument here.



You're clearly not reading the word "marriage" stated numerous times. So how does this case link with Islam? You still haven't explained. You're sending links of websites and expecting me to accept this as your argument?



LOL you're asking me to answer such a simple question. We all know that will be Islam from their names. But how does that make your argument anymore justifiable? Just because they're Muslim it doesn't meant they are doing these acts because they follow Islam.

Sureeeee you didn't have to look at my profile, I wasn't even discussing their ethnic backgrounds and somehow guessed my ethnic background.

If you look at my previous posts I've used Islam before. I was just testing your sense with the link of Islam and this case.



Thank you! Someone said it. I couldn't have said it better.

Sorry, we don't have the resources to keep then locked up over here. End of. Especially when there have been huge funding cuts to services that support British women who are victims of abuse.


And as for the white women being deported, you have completely and utterly missed the point of the entire thing.

the term the media ( and indeed everyone else) uses as asian, refers to those within the asian subcontinent and beyond - the middle east in old traditional terms was called 'asia minor' but now people from there are almost always refered to as 'middle eastern' - ie he was of 'middle eastern appearance'. asian is a culturally accepted term to refer to pakistanis, indians, sri lankans, burmese chinese koreans japanese etc. but the reality is of these people only a small percentage are muslims, majority of asia is not islamic, islam is not even an asian religion, it came from outside - jimmy saville has more in common with a practicing muslim than a chinese or indian