Asian sex abusers to be stripped of UK citizenship and deported

Yeah I get that it's not affordable, which is such a shame. How do countries go about changing cultural and social attitudes though? I don't think a discussion is enough and it's definitely not going to defend young men and women from sexual abuse and harassment. What methods would be more effective?

Stop admitting Muslim men, except when they have been carefully selected and have high paid jobs.

I doubt that any of these gentlemen had medical degree.

But I think that is so wrong. These people need to be taught a lesson so they never do it again, whether it's here, in Asia, in Africa or any other damn continent in the world.

That also didn't explain what you would do with the English women that were involved. You admit they're monsters, but don't want anything to do with the Asian ones, so what should happen to the English ones?

India is an example of where change in the form of new legislation is happening. As to the positive effects to date, I don't know enough about it/ have the evidence to comment. Change needs to happen in the country of origin, they have the real responsibility.

But I think that is so wrong. These people need to be taught a lesson so they never do it again, whether it's here, in Asia, in Africa or any other damn continent in the world.
That also didn't explain what you would do with the English women that were involved. You admit they're monsters, but don't want anything to do with the Asian ones, so what should happen to the English ones?

what's a medical degree got to do with being a rapist?

I think that claiming that these men did what they did because Islam allows men to take concubines is an extremely foolish argument with no basis at all. Did the men say or do anything that indicated that they were acting on the verses that allowed them to take concubines? No.

But much of it probably has something to do with the men coming from misogynistic cultures were female sexuality is something evil and is meant to be suppressed. For these reasons women and girls should dress and act a certain way or they are fair game and can only blame themselves if men assault them. These girls, sadly were viewed as cheap, loose and asking for it by these men who view Western women that way.

To be fair there are several old White perverts with their paedophile rings as well. What is the motivation of those men to sexually abuse children?

The thread concerns those with dual nationality, a very specific problem where the solution, though obvious, took far to long to implement, which has caused a lot of public anger.

Indigenous people commuting crimes is another topic.

But all that attitude does is shove the responsibility on to someone else so that we have one less problem to deal with,

I feel like we should at least try and make an effort into educating/rehabilitating these people as we're all human beings at the end of the day.

But why does this thread only concern those with dual nationality? Why are they the only ones people want to focus on? How is it another topic, surely we should be discussing what to do with the abusers and rapists, and not discussing them differently because of where they were born.

What kind of lesson?

The English ones will go in jail. Sadly, we cannot deport them. We can do it with the foreign ones, so it's just common sense to use that possibility.

How can you just deport them because they were ethnic minorities? Even though I kind of agree with it does this mean that anybody can be deported. I'm half welsh but don't want to live there.

It's an example. Pakistani grooming gangs tend to be composed of uneducated low-lifes.

Having a degree is not an absolute guarantee that this person will not be a rapist, but the probably that he will commit a crime is however considerably reduced compared to his uneducated fellows.

I just think they need to be somehow taught never to treat women like that

People should learn to read the OP and the links provided in it and the previous posts before jumping to the comments. FFS

I just think they need to be somehow taught never to treat women like that, especially doing the things they did.

Isn't that the easy way out though? Deporting them won't stop the problem from happening again.

ok so they were born there but it kind of surprises me that they have this power

The Quran may be seen as feeding into a culture of misogyny.