There are too many people on benefits

How about being constructive on my argument rather than falling to sarcasm. I'm simply reittering the popular argument of those on benefits should earn it. So in a sense, the standard form of benefits is mostly removed, and those whom havn't found a job, or are seeking a job have an option to work for the government directly. I don't see the issue with this, but you obviously do.

So rather than it being "People on benefits that are earning it" what you're talking about actually just sounds like a regular job, except specifically working for the Governement, no?

So effectively they're employed, rather than being on benefits.

I guess that also brings them the rights that employment brings, no?

Well essentially, yes. A job is always available to you from the government, which would give enough money, and presumably time for an unemployed person to find an alternative job, whilst also doing something productive for the country.

Why not just stop giving them money and just give them coupons instead? Personally I'd go full Israeli and introduce mandatory sterilisation for benefits claimants.

Coupons is a good idea, however;

1) What happens when people start selling their coupons to get cash for example selling a £40 coupon to someone for £30, creating a black market?
2) What if the coupons expire before the person uses them?
3) Can we really tell someone what they can and cannot buy with coupons?

However, coupons are probably the better of most ideas on controlling benefits claimants spending, however like most things will always come with its dis-advantages. I dont think its really the money which is the problem, the problem is that this country is giving TOO MUCH in benefits and not enough for those in low paid jobs. Why would someone work when they get more in benefits. Best solution is either reduce the amount given in benefits or increase the amount given too workers, however the latter is not in the control of governments for the most part.

Why not just stop giving them money and just give them coupons instead? Personally I'd go full Israeli and introduce mandatory sterilisation for benefits claimants.

And how w much will this cost?

1) You give the DWP your account details and your ID is in the barcode, so only the recipient can use them.
2) If they've let them expire they must be well off enough not to need them, no action taken
3) Can people demand free money? Beggars cannot be choosers.

If all of the benefits is used for necessities then they can be reduced. It shouldn't cover booze and fags which a large proportion of benefits are undoubtedly used for. The savings can be used to supplement wages. There's plenty of possibilities but I can't see anything changing before the UK comes to an end.

God there are some idiotic comments on here


Posted from TSR Mobile

that money isn't 'lost'

it goes to jobs, wages, capital investment. we should be lowering taxes and allowing private enterprise to be even more successful. this is the only way to create wealth and will boost the standard of living across the entire country

Tell me how giving billionaires millions of pounds that would have went into tax increases the standard of living across the country. All private companies care about is making people at the top and their shareholders rich. Jobs and wages tend to be kept at the minimum that they can get the job done with, so that the people at the top have even more money.

What we really need to do - instead of your absurd idea - is to tax companies more and ensure fines for tax evasion are so crippling that no company would dare risk it. With the extra money raised we can increase the standard of living for everyone.

**** you! I'm on benefits and I NEEDED it. I used it to get my GCSE's and it's funded my Access course. Now I can finally sign off benefits when I start uni in Sept.

And I wonder how many have actually been on benefits...

Tell me how giving billionaires millions of pounds that would have went into tax increases the standard of living across the country. All private companies care about is making people at the top and their shareholders rich. Jobs and wages tend to be kept at the minimum that they can get the job done with, so that the people at the top have even more money.

What we really need to do - instead of your absurd idea - is to tax companies more and ensure fines for tax evasion are so crippling that no company would dare risk it. With the extra money raised we can increase the standard of living for everyone.

And I wonder how many have actually been on benefits...