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Chances to find a job after graduating from Bristol University

Hello, Im from Malaysia and Im planning to study Law in Bristol University. Im curious about the possibility for me to get a job in UK after graduating.

I got rejected from LSE with a 4A's for As results and 4A* predicted grades for overall A Levels with a decent personal statement (according to my lecturers and personal statement advisers) . This is very disappointing because I know that being a LSE graduate will definitely give me a better chance to find a job in UK under such competition in the market.

So my question is, will Bristol be worth it for me, if one of my priorities is to get a job in UK after graduating.

Anyway, I got offers from Nottingham, Warwick and Birmingham too, are any of them better than Bristol?

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Original post by Polysexual Nymph
Bristol are very good for law. As are the other universities you listed. Choose the university you think you will do best at.


Personally, I'd say Bristol has the edge for law (Warwick are quite weak in law - relative to their specialisms, e.g. Econ/Maths).


Comparing Nottingham and Bristol, which university do you personally feel has better graduate job prospect? Thank you for your help.
Original post by nasilemak
Comparing Nottingham and Bristol, which university do you personally feel has better graduate job prospect? Thank you for your help.


Are you aware of the visa issues in attempting to get a job in the UK? This is not my area but it is not easy to get permission to remain in the UK after graduation, and I advise you to check this out before basing your university choice around it. (FWIW there's little if anything to choose between those two.)
Original post by nasilemak
Hello, Im from Malaysia and Im planning to study Law in Bristol University. Im curious about the possibility for me to get a job in UK after graduating.

I got rejected from LSE with a 4A's for As results and 4A* predicted grades for overall A Levels with a decent personal statement (according to my lecturers and personal statement advisers) . This is very disappointing because I know that being a LSE graduate will definitely give me a better chance to find a job in UK under such competition in the market.

So my question is, will Bristol be worth it for me, if one of my priorities is to get a job in UK after graduating.

Anyway, I got offers from Nottingham, Warwick and Birmingham too, are any of them better than Bristol?


LSE is a really competitive university, and they do reject lots of really good candidates every year. Bristol is a top university though, and very respected for law. However, even a first degree from any university is not enough to guarantee you a job after graduation, especially in a field like law. You will usually need work experience, which a lot of students gain through holiday/summer placements.

As CarnationLilyRose has said, one of your biggest issues is likely to be the Visa requirements for non-EU nationals getting a job and staying on after coming over on a student visa. The rules changed in July last year, making it much harder to stay on from a Tier 4 student visa. I'm not sure, but I think the new rules may also affect what kind placements you are able to do.

This site gives pretty comprehensive information regarding your options for working after study in the UK: http://www.ukcisa.org.uk/Information--Advice/Working/Working-after-studies
Bristol and Nottingham are both fantastic for law so you will do well at either. Same as what everyone else has said, the job market is hard enough for uk students as it is, so it will be incredibly difficult to get a company to sponsor your visa. Worth a try but I wouldn't set your heart on it


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What kind of job do you seek?


US/MC/SC firm: Bristol will make this difficult, as so few law students at Bristol achieve 1.1s/2.1s.
Other good city firms: possible from any of those, but depends on how well you do at the university.
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Original post by Polysexual Nymph
What kind of job do you seek?


US/MC/SC firm: Bristol will make this difficult, as so few law students at Bristol achieve 1.1s/2.1s.
Other good city firms: possible from any of those, but depends on how well you do at the university.


The first one is not true at all. It is very difficult in the first year, but it does improve towards the second and third years. Bristol has a very strong presence in US/MS/SC firms (read the ChamberStudent survey for reference).

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The first one is not true at all. It is very difficult in the first year, but it does improve towards the second and third years. Bristol has a very strong presence in US/MS/SC firms (read the ChamberStudent survey for reference).

What % of first year lawyers at Bristol achieve a 1.1? 2.1?


Without a solid 2.1 they'll struggle to get a VS at a US/MC/SC firm, doubly so as international students.
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Original post by Polysexual Nymph
What % of first year lawyers at Bristol achieve a 1.1? 2.1?


Without a solid 2.1 they'll struggle to get a VS at a US/MC/SC firm, doubly so as international students.


In total, about 25-35% (they haven't given us stats overall, only on individual subjects).

Whilst it is definitely not the same as other universities (bar Nottingham which does exactly the same with the marking), it still allows for a stream into the profession.

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In total, about 25-35% (they haven't given us stats overall, only on individual subjects).

That means that 70% of all Bristol law students will effectively be ruled out of achieving a VS at a top City law firm.


Not necessarily a TC, but a VS at a US/MC firm with a 2.2 from Bristol as an international student? Think again.
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Original post by Polysexual Nymph
That means that 70% of all Bristol law students will effectively be ruled out of achieving a VS at a top City law firm.


Not necessarily a TC, but a VS at a US/MC firm with a 2.2 from Bristol as an international student? Think again.


As I said, it is for individual subjects. I don't and can't know the overall percentages. Unistats shows a much better picture (circa 70% with 2.1s), but I don't know if that's true.

Also, don't forget that Bristol has a huge law class, which means that lower scores normalises the number with other universities.

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As I said, it is for individual subjects. I don't and can't know the overall percentages.
I don't understand what you mean - what information do you have?


I have a few friends doing law at Bristol and from what they have told me 20-25% (for 1.1s and 2.1s) sounds about right.


Therefore, ss I said, roughly 70% of Bristol law students have very little, if any, chance of securing a VS at a top City firm.
Original post by Polysexual Nymph
I don't understand what you mean - what information do you have?


I have a few friends doing law at Bristol and from what they have told me 20-25% (for 1.1s and 2.1s) sounds about right.


Therefore, ss I said, roughly 70% of Bristol law students have very little, if any, chance of securing a VS at a top City firm.


You're way off mate. Your friends are probably telling you that to make it seem like their course is hard. Around 70-75% of students will actually be getting 2:1s and above.


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Original post by Polysexual Nymph
I don't understand what you mean - what information do you have?


I have a few friends doing law at Bristol and from what they have told me 20-25% (for 1.1s and 2.1s) sounds about right.


Therefore, ss I said, roughly 70% of Bristol law students have very little, if any, chance of securing a VS at a top City firm.


In individual subjects, the majority (around 60-65%) will get 2.2s and below. This does not necessarily mean that the overall averages will be mostly 2.2s and below.

For instance, in 2014-2015, these were the results in criminal law:

355 candidates were registered on the unit. The results were as follows:
Firsts: 10 (3%)
Upper Seconds: 97 (27%)
Lower Seconds: 149 (42%)
Thirds: 63 (18%)
Fails / absent: 36 (10%)

However, we were told fewer people got firsts overall and more got 2.1s overall. And these stats improve noticeably in the second and third years.

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You're way off mate. Your friends are probably telling you that to make it seem like their course is hard. Around 70-75% of students will actually be getting 2:1s and above.Posted from TSR Mobile
I do think, however, that those statistics are quite higher than the normal percentage.
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Guys, I think arguing over the percentage of students who get a First/2.1 from Bristol is starting to derail the thread a bit. I know it was sort of relevant to the OP when the discussion started but it's probably passed that point now, so if you do want to discuss it maybe start another thread?

Thanks
Original post by SlowlorisIncognito
Guys, I think arguing over the percentage of students who get a First/2.1 from Bristol is starting to derail the thread a bit. I know it was sort of relevant to the OP when the discussion started but it's probably passed that point now, so if you do want to discuss it maybe start another thread?

Thanks

Whether 30%, or 70%, of Bristol first-year law students achieve a 2.1+ could make the world of difference for OP's quest to gain employment in the UK.
Original post by Polysexual Nymph
Whether 30%, or 70%, of Bristol first-year law students achieve a 2.1+ could make the world of difference for OP's quest to gain employment in the UK.


I accept that. However, if the OP is really concerned, they can contact Bristol for themselves and find out the percentage of students being given a 2.1 or above. Arguing about it on the thread isn't helping the OP, especially as some posters are getting to the point of rudeness.
Original post by SlowlorisIncognito
I accept that. However, if the OP is really concerned, they can contact Bristol for themselves and find out the percentage of students being given a 2.1 or above. Arguing about it on the thread isn't helping the OP, especially as some posters are getting to the point of rudeness.

I think only one poster has been rude thus far. And why make the OP contact Bristol when we can deduce such information ourselves? But I take your point.
Original post by Polysexual Nymph
I think only one poster has been rude thus far. And why make the OP contact Bristol when we can deduce such information ourselves? But I take your point.


I'm not making OP do anything- it's up to them if they want to do that, but if they're concerned, then I would suggest that contacting Bristol is better than trusting the word of strangers on the internet, two of whom are contradicting each other.

This discussion is taking the thread further off topic. Any more posts that I deem to be off topic will be removed and carded if necessary.

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