Do you think Hitler went to heaven?

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Reply 40

Vikingninja

I don't even believe in Heaven or Hell.

Reply 41

Howard

Original post by xobeauty

He broke one of the Ten Commandments so no.

By that rationale nobody would ever get to heaven.

Reply 42

Gwilym101

Original post by Howard

The cardinal sins are pride, envy, gluttony, sloth, wrath, greed, and lust. Suicide isn't listed among them. Besides, the Catholic Church no longer teaches that suicide automatically secures a one way ticket to hell and eternal torment.

But back to my point. Hitler attempted genocide and in so doing followed the fine example set by God in the Bible.

Thank you I meant mortal sin, not cardinal.

OT God is very much, do as I say not as I do.

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 43

Howard

Original post by Vikingninja

I don't even believe in Heaven or Hell.

This thread isn't about your personal beliefs. Just imagine that you do believe in Heaven and Hell for shits and giggles and answer the question.

Reply 44

Howard

Original post by Gwilym101

Thank you I meant mortal sin, not cardinal.

OT God is very much, do as I say not as I do.

A mortal sin condemns one to hell if unforgiven. Since God is the one who has the power to forgive and on the assumption that his goodness will lead him to do so then suicide doesn't automatically lead to eternal torment.

There's a huge list of mortal sins; some of them are pretty trivial by today's standards (divorce, adultery, contraception, drug use, even freemasonry)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortal_sin#Mortal_sins

Anyway, it's all fairy tales to me.

Reply 45

username155270

Original post by Howard

By that rationale nobody would ever get to heaven.

God is forgiving that's why we have confessional, doubt he would forgive sin after sin after sin though.

(edited 8 years ago)

Reply 46

Gwilym101

Original post by Howard

You have to repent before the sin can be forgiven and you can't repent for something you haven't done yet (hence why last rites and final confessions are considered so important), so according to lore at the time, he had a big glaring mortal sin on his soul at the time of his death.

Reply 47

strangesquark

Original post by JeffyBoyAnjou

If you believe that God would have let Hitler into Heaven, then who might God condemn to Hell instead? I am finding it difficult to name many people who have done 'worse' things, depending on your definition of worse. Do you think anyone is in Hell in your thought experiment?

Reply 48

MaccaWare

If anyone has any idea of the true nature of a Christians journey to heaven, then you will know it really only has one step that you can control - accepting Christ as your saviour. Hitler did terrible things, and i can safely assume he didn't accept Christ as his saviour, because throughout his life he clearly hated the Christian faith, and its severely unlikely he would of repented in his last days because he was a psychopath.

God is just

If there is no heaven no day of judgment God is not just because all the criminals including Hitler got away

Since God is just therefore heaven and hell exist. Hell is Where God will burn Hitler 6 million times then justice is served.

Hitler will be burnt 6 million times then its up to God to keep him in hell or take him 2 heaven.

Reply 51

EphemeralLove

According to the film Little Nicky, he's in Hell wearing a French maid dress, fishnets, heels, and having whole pineapples anally inserted :u:

Reply 52

the bear

Original post by JeffyBoyAnjou

that does not make you an authority on the issue, i also started a history degree and i have never seen evidence about hitler being incapable of having sex.

the Fuhrer was apparently missing one testicle, but he could still have enjoyed a fulfilling relationship. Before Ms Braun he was involved with his niece ?

Reply 53

Gwilym101

Original post by JeffyBoyAnjou

im not Christian so don't believe in mortal and cradinal sin nonsense. I think god can forgive everyone

Well he can, doesn't mean he will and Hitler was Christian, so if the Christian god were real he'd be in hell and if any other god were real he'd be in hell regardless of what he did because he didn't worship them even if said deity had no issue with suicide or being responsible for more death, suffering and cruelty than any individual person in history.

Reply 54

whorace

Original post by the bear

the Fuhrer was apparently missing one testicle, but he could still have enjoyed a fulfilling relationship. Before Ms Braun he was involved with his niece ?

What was that whole suicide thing about? Didn't like 3 women he hooked up with try to kill themselves? Not exactly got a good track record has he???

Reply 55

the bear

Original post by whorace

What was that whole suicide thing about? Didn't like 3 women he hooked up with try to kill themselves? Not exactly got a good track record has he???

ermm his niece was murdered by the Fuhrer's thugs.

Reply 56

whorace

Original post by the bear

ermm his niece was murdered by the Fuhrer's thugs.

On 18 September 1931 Raubal was found dead in the apartment, shot with Hitler's pistol, an apparent suicide
Braun herself attempted suicide on 10 or 11 August 1932 by shooting herself in the chest with her father's pistol

Unity Mitford also tried to kill herself,

Oh and Maria Reiter
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He told her to wait for him and that they would live together. After this declaration, Hitler ignored her and broke things off. This plunged her into depression. In 1928 while in despair, she attempted to hang herself"