Is there anything positive about the future direction of England?

Que sera sera.
I don't know to be honest.
The 'non-diverse enclaves' are only really found in major cities. I definitely feel there has to be a control on the number of immigrants coming into the country.
There's so many possible outcomes of the future, it's hard to say what it will be like for sure.

Yea in Lincolnshire and places like Evesham for the crop picking.

Not in places like Warwick for example


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It is the end of the world as we know it.

why did u remove the post you quote me?

some years ago around 2014 i opened a thread titled "Europe is on a decline" and i got nothing but hate replies and ridiculed....today the same thread wouldnt receive that comments tho...ho ho ho

I honestly think that the decline of european countries is seriously overblown.

y the fok was I tagged?

I deleted it because I thought you were pissed off I tagged you.

Wasn't pissed. Just could not think of a satisfactory reply yesterday.

Still cant today lol.

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Yes I feel similar but my solution is to move out of the city and into a market town where if you pick well many of those issues are lessened a lot.


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Like Luton?

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I'm German and a long time lurker on this forum.

Political correctness was what got many, many people on this forum bannedreat country once again.

Let's ask her
@Audrey18 Other than the OP, how did you pick who to tag?
Excellent post though

Hi. I looked through the thread and tagged people who I felt had contributed positively to the cause with excellent posts. Thank you for repping me. It means a lot to know that my thoughts are appreciated.

You're welcome!
You put a lot of effort into that post and it was very good, hence worth appreciating xxx

Thanks for tagging me audrey,

but believe it or not what Margaret Thatcher did for this country (a great introduction of the private markets in to the economy) was not the best thing that could of happened. Not to mention the mass privatisation and killing off of the unions and the national industries, such as the coal mines and the railways. But hey ho, let's all just blame it on the immigrants, and forget the responsibility that we have in fermenting the rise of isis, by the destruction of iraq's stable infrastructure when we attacked it in 2003. But then most of the posters on this forum weren't politically active then, so they won't know the full story i say? Remember the stop the war marches? Without a doubt some of the greatest demonstrations i have ever had the privilege to take part on!

The spread of Islam will lead to a reduction in teen single mothers and all the other vicissitudes. People will be so scared of getting literally battered by the law (Sharia by then hopefully) that the crime rate will just plummet.

completely understand this post.

I never really had the same feelings, until I left England... but now, looking back, its hard to rationalize returning.

I currently live in china, which does have its problems, and due to still being a developing country, certainly lacks a lot of the luxury that england has, outside of major city centers.. but, most importantly it ticks off the essential boxes of my life:

Here I can:

- Easily secure stable work, that pays a very decent wage.
- Live a decent quality of life on around 25% of my monthly income.
- Buy a flat (no mortgage) in less then 2-3 years.
- afford a decent car, and to pay for transport.

Compared to my friends back in the UK, life here just makes a lot of sense.

I look back at england and I just see problems, especially for young people:

- Housing that would cost me 5-6x my yearly sallery (in my families area of the UK)
- Ridiculous cost of living, that would reduce my ability to save/have a relaxing financially independent life
- a population thats to busy fighting and arguing then actually getting things done
- Jobs that require a stupid amount of red-tape, lengthy application processes, and in the end are not very secure/reliable.
- A fractured society that does not know what it wants to be, with an increasingly unhappy native population.
(more on that last point spoiled bellow due to length, and lack of relivance)



For me, living away from england feels good.. last year with the terror attacks in france, the crisis in europe, and now the fighting over in/out of the EU - I can watch it from a distance, and be glad im not fully involved.

China has its own problems though, I would never start a family here.. due to the way they treat children, and its to built up/dependent on large cities, for a countryside person like myself.

If you removed my family back in england from the equasion, I would try and settle in probably New Zealand, or Canada.

But all things considered, I could never have my grandchildren away from my family.. so despite all of its problems, I am tied to england, and will return soon enough to make the best out of what ever the future holds for this/my country.

> lives in someone's else country, benefits from it
> criticise the same people you benefit from for doing the same


Yup


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You seem to have slightly confused my point..

No where have I criticized people for benefiting from working in another country. Rather what I criticized was the lack of integration between groups in the UK. An issue that I put down to a very human urge to spend time with those we feel a familiarity with, rather then blaming either the majority or minority communities.

I am always in favor of immigration, the UK needs it, and it should continue. but I do have many criticisms and worries regarding how we manage immigration.

My criticisms towards the Chinese community in England, could be completely mirrored and applied to a lot of the expat communities in china. I have met a few workers over here who only have western friends, and see the local Chinese as little more then an inconvenience to their lives.

For me, half my family are Chinese, I speak the language, live with my Chinese family, work with Chinese people, go out with my Chinese friends, enjoy all the local customs/traditions with my family. I would never dream of doing differently, because its the exact same thing that I expect of my Chinese family when they come to stay for long periods in England.

Its not true. The immigration critics completely left Chinese out because they don't feel that they are not integrating. Not true from my experience as well.

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