The Student Room Group

C3 IYGB Trig question help

I'm doing Paper Q of the IYGB papers and am having trouble with question 8b.

The paper and mark scheme are here http://www.madasmaths.com/archive/iygb_practice_papers/c3_practice_papers/c3_q.pdf and http://www.madasmaths.com/archive/iygb_practice_papers/c3_practice_papers/c3_q_solutions.pdf

I get to the stage 2 theta - pi/3 = theta and then I can find the first solution, theta = pi/3. But after this I don't know how to find the other solutions.

Also, could a question like this be on an actual Edexcel C3 paper?

Thanks
Reply 1
Original post by anonwinner
I'm doing Paper Q of the IYGB papers and am having trouble with question 8b.

The paper and mark scheme are here http://www.madasmaths.com/archive/iygb_practice_papers/c3_practice_papers/c3_q.pdf and http://www.madasmaths.com/archive/iygb_practice_papers/c3_practice_papers/c3_q_solutions.pdf

I get to the stage 2 theta - pi/3 = theta and then I can find the first solution, theta = pi/3. But after this I don't know how to find the other solutions.

Also, could a question like this be on an actual Edexcel C3 paper?

Thanks


Do you remember how to solve trig equations of the form cosx=k\cos x= k?

We have that x=arccosk+2nπx = \arccos k + 2n\pi but also (because fourth quadrant)
Unparseable latex formula:

x = 2\pi - \arccos k + 2\npi

.
Reply 2
Original post by Zacken
Do you remember how to solve trig equations of the form cosx=k\cos x= k?

We have that x=arccosk+2nπx = \arccos k + 2n\pi but also (because fourth quadrant)
Unparseable latex formula:

x = 2\pi - \arccos k + 2\npi

.


I use the CAST diagram method.

After I had found theta = pi/3 I then wrote theta = 2pi - pi/3 to find the solution in the fourth quadrant.

This resulted in theta = 5pi/3 but this is not a correct solution.
Reply 3
Original post by anonwinner
I use the CAST diagram method.

After I had found theta = pi/3 I then wrote theta = 2pi - pi/3 to find the solution in the fourth quadrant.

This resulted in theta = 5pi/3 but this is not a correct solution.


You found 2θπ3=θ2\theta - \frac{\pi}{3} = \theta (the θ\theta on your RHS is the "solution").

So you need to do: 2θπ3=2πθ2\theta - \frac{\pi}{3} = 2\pi - \theta now.

It might help for you to write 2θπ3=x2\theta -\frac{\pi}{3} = x to help your visualisation.
Reply 4
Original post by Zacken
You found 2θπ3=θ2\theta - \frac{\pi}{3} = \theta (the θ\theta on your RHS is the "solution":wink:.

So you need to do: 2θπ3=2πθ2\theta - \frac{\pi}{3} = 2\pi - \theta now.

It might help for you to write 2θπ3=x2\theta -\frac{\pi}{3} = x to help your visualisation.


Thanks I think I am starting to understand.

If this had been a typical C3 trig question (with theta on only 1 side of the equation), then my method would have worked. Why does it not work for this question?
Reply 5
Original post by anonwinner
Thanks I think I am starting to understand.

If this had been a typical C3 trig question (with theta on only 1 side of the equation), then my method would have worked. Why does it not work for this question?


Because θ\theta is on both sides of the equation. You wouldn't get a question like that in an Edexcel exam though, or at least it would be very unlikely.
Reply 6
Original post by Zacken
Because θ\theta is on both sides of the equation. You wouldn't get a question like that in an Edexcel exam though, or at least it would be very unlikely.


Okay thanks, I really hope it's not on the paper this year
Reply 7
Original post by anonwinner
Okay thanks, I really hope it's not on the paper this year


It won't be. Just remember, all your CAST stuff happens before manipulating the equation, if that makes sense.
Reply 8
CAST is what you support a limb after a fracture to aid recovery
Reply 9
Original post by TeeEm
CAST is what you support a limb after a fracture to aid recovery


Top banter m8

Quick Reply

Latest