Can you make massive money in investment banking?

The figures were for IBD (so FO).

You'd be right with that, yeah.

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Do you mind adding a column to your table, stating the number of years of experience one would normally need to have, to get to the respective grade.

Often people on TSR talk about IBs pay the most but I was made aware that a partner in one of the Big 4 accountancy firms earn a whopping ..... £1m+!

Having said that, it normally takes around 25+ years WITHIN the same org and the main skill is not academic nor hard working ability but (unfortunately) your social skills.

Why is it not important? Most people go into banking for the money, and to a lesser extent, the opportunities.

MD takes roughly 10-15 years (depends on the bank, your performance and the division of FO you're in) to make and they're already on about a mil, give or take. On the chart, it pretty much delineates how long you spend at each grade ('Analyst 1, 2, 3' etc, the numbers indicate years).

Whereas, Big4 accounting partners take the same amount of time to make Partner, except, they'll be on £250k at the introductory partner level. It usually ramps up fairly well, but the only partners making £1mil+ are the ones that have been partner for 13+ years (i.e. 25-28 years of total experience).

Yep, that's fairly spot on regarding 'selling ability' at the top in IB too. Goes for any high paying industry really, you need to be able to sell yourself (and the organisation) to clients.


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Anyone expecting to become MD in IB or partner in the big four without solid connections is deluding themselves: the odds are well against you no matter how hard you work. Most likely you give up 20 of the best years of your life to become a bitter VP or senior manager before they let you go. I really don't know why people fall for it, is it the money?

Anyone expecting to become MD in IB or partner in the big four without solid connections is deluding themselves: the odds are well against you no matter how hard you work. Most likely you give up 20 of the best years of your life to become a bitter VP or senior manager before they let you go. I really don't know why people fall for it, is it the money?

You should not have mentioned me little dove. I am now obliged to educate you.

Shall I walk you through a comprehensive business plan showing that you can probably make 50-150k from a car parts stripping business right now?

They're too useful to be hindered by regulation for too long, it's only a matter of time. I don't really know - I'm not that knowledgeable about financial matters, I just think they're pretty cool.

You speak sense.

OP, what is your definition of 'massive amounts of money'.

Couple of mm? Possible
Bns? - No.

Never ceases to amaze me how people hear of the money and suddenly decide they want to work in investment banking, without any knowledge of the industry or roles. Best of luck with that, most of your competition have been preparing to apply for these roles for 12-24 months, longer in some cases.

Why is it important?

Also, yes, front running is a great idea.

Honestly in my opinion I dont think thats a massive amount haha

Unless you're from a really wealthy family, you must be delusional.

One old boss used to point at my Michael Kors watch and say "I've got one of them!"....

He had like a solid gold Rolex. Funny!!!!

People throw their Rolexes across the desk to each other to compare, they fly through the air and I hold my breath!

The money they give you is a pittance, even if they give you a salary of £1,000,000 - it's still nothing.

You're supposed to use that money to make a hell of a lot more.




I'm going to read about this in detail.




I meant billions, by learning how the investment banks and their clients make money at the highest levels.




You could just ace them.




It's important because I want to learn how to make (at least) billions of pounds.

If front running is where you learn the most about how the investment banks and their top clients themselves make money, that's where I would want to be.




Same, it's nothing!




It really is a pittance.




Your watch is worth way more than his solid gold Rolex, because he was stupid enough to pay much more than its worth simply because of its brand name. What a joke!

The money they give you is a pittance, even if they give you a salary of £1,000,000 - it's still nothing.

You're supposed to use that money to make a hell of a lot more.




I'm going to read about this in detail.




I meant billions, by learning how the investment banks and their clients make money at the highest levels.




You could just ace them.




It's important because I want to learn how to make (at least) billions of pounds.

If front running is where you learn the most about how the investment banks and their top clients themselves make money, that's where I would want to be.




Same, it's nothing!




It really is a pittance.




Your watch is worth way more than his solid gold Rolex, because he was stupid enough to pay much more than its worth simply because of its brand name. What a joke!

Haha very funny now. I actually liked the way it looked that's why I bought it.

Doubt you'll make a billion in anything, let alone finance. The big Hedge Fund founders are the only people that are going to break the £1b mark, but, you need billions to make billions. Without any credibility, track record or experience, no institutional investors are going to be giving you £10b+ to play with any time soon bud.

Banks make a small percentage profit on very large trades. This isn't applicable to your private savings.

Sweet (just like you!).





You have little faith! Making billions is easy, I'm just working out the fastest way.

I'd make the money myself.

The money they give you is a pittance, even if they give you a salary of £1,000,000 - it's still nothing.

You're supposed to use that money to make a hell of a lot more.




I'm going to read about this in detail.




I meant billions, by learning how the investment banks and their clients make money at the highest levels.




You could just ace them.




It's important because I want to learn how to make (at least) billions of pounds.

If front running is where you learn the most about how the investment banks and their top clients themselves make money, that's where I would want to be.




Same, it's nothing!




It really is a pittance.




Your watch is worth way more than his solid gold Rolex, because he was stupid enough to pay much more than its worth simply because of its brand name. What a joke!

You're either a troll or utterly ****ing deluded.

Doubt you'll make a billion in anything, let alone finance. The big Hedge Fund founders are the only people that are going to break the £1b mark, but, you need billions to make billions. Without any credibility, track record or experience, no institutional investors are going to be giving you £10b+ to play with any time soon bud.

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Ignore him, he's obviously trolling. The only people who think like that are the sorts of people who live in a really wealthy enclave where literally everyone you grew up with recieves a car worth 4x what most people earn in a year for their 17th birthday. and they don't talk like he does.


The truth is, that's more than most people on TSR will ever earn in a year, even at their peak salary. Investment bankers/those who took the exit opportunities will take home more than pretty much anyone who isn't either a celebrity or a top business startup.

inb4 'Im gonna make CFO' because you're not

Money is really easy to make, it's just that most people are unaware of how to make it.

I meant working for an investment bank to learn how they (and their clients) make money. But it was just a simple question - there are much faster and better ways of making a hell of a lot of money.

A simple way would be to live dirt-cheap, get as high a paying job as you can, start an excellent business (easier than you think) and devote your life to learning how to make more and more money, investing that money in the same or other ways.

Basically, it's easy to make billions - it's just that most people are ignorant (no joke).