Is Israel or ISIS a greater threat to world peace?

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USA ≠ Europe, regardless.Most countries in the world conduct missile tests.
So?

Turns out what I believed was false

No but if the USA are unhappy with North Korea, the EU and UK will most likely side with the USA, so we'd be targets as well.

Kim Jong-Un is a maniac, he's starving and killing whoever he wants, cares little about human rights and is hacking networks in the west, how is that not worrying about the prospect of having a missed too

How predictable...


Mere unsubstantiated speculation holds no sway in the court of public opinion.


He is a terrible dictator, yes, but how does that make North Korea "the biggest threat to world peace by far"?

You don't need Sherlock to work out that the UK and EU will almost always stand by the USA.

I think the biggest danger with North Korea is if they start to believe their own propaganda and resume the war with the South, which obviously leads to the USA getting involved on China's doorstep.

A maniac with nukes is certainly a far greater threat than a bunch of religious crackpots largely confined the the Middle-East or a democratic state, which Israel is for all it's faults.

Did the UK "stand by" the USA during the Vietnam War?


None of this substantiates your assertion that North Korea are "the biggest threat to world peace by far".

They are not capable of delivering their nuclear "weapons" via missiles (despite their claims yesterday that they have managed to miniaturise their nuclear warheads - even if this is true, which it almost certainly isn't, it shows they are still not able to deliver a conventional nuclear strike).


If NK attack South Korea no one will support them. South Korea have a far superior military, and North Korea don't have any reliable missiles that could target Europe/USA. Just yesterday even Russia told NK that they are creating justification under international law for a pre-emptive attack against NK with their rhetoric (threatening nuclear strikes against the USA), and a few days prior China agreed to more stringent sanctions on NK.


NK are only really a threat to SK, and could do some serious damage with their Scud-based short-range missiles, and maybe a nuclear 'dirty bomb'. But they shouldn't be seen as this grave threat to world peace that could destroy the world whenever they decide they wish to do so.

I do not agree. What evidence do you have to support this assertion? Their empty rhetoric doesn't count.


The only country they could ever feasibly invade is South Korea, and they know that doing this would lead to their downfall, which is the one thing even Supreme Kimmy won't risk.

While they are obviously exaggerating their capabilities their repeated rocket launches and nuclear tests show that they aren't to be taken lightly, only they themselves really know what they are due to the secretive nature of the country.

Aside from the direct threat they pose, if a terrorist organisation was going to get nuclear material from anywhere I'd wager that North Korea would be the most likely. All the other nuclear armed countries are led by sane people.

It's a genuine gut feeling, we have no idea where these missiles can get to, we don't know their intentions, all we can be certain about is the fact that they have a maniac in change

Well yes in the short term, but if we don't do something now they'll catch us sleeping, just like ISIS did with the Paris attacks

They are gradually losing territory, but I think it's a bit early to say they won't be a long term threat. There is a good chance that if they lose control of their strongholds that they'll revert back to an insurgency, with massacres and hit and run attacks taking place. A bit like the Taliban, who went back to insurgency after they were removed from power and continue to pose some threat.

These sort of attacks have already happened in areas held by the YPG in Syria, with a mass shooting at Kobane last year (around the time that the YPG captured Tall Abyad from ISIS) and a recent attack at Tall Abyad and some of the surrounding villages. Insurgency attacks well behind the front lines. So that possibility isn't me making up unrealistic conspiracy theories.

That's before we get onto their overseas expansion. They may be defeated in one country but they can turn up somewhere else - like their recent expansion in Libya.

And with Israel, diplomacy is an option - the success of that sort of thing really depends on which governments are in power in Israel and their allies. It is 100% not an option with groups like ISIS.

OP,I think you should include a poll to go with this thread