Women Protection Bill protested by religious leaders as 'un-Islamic'

Also, there is a distinct lack of women on these threads that criticise Islam's treatment of women.

Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful for and impressed by the TSR boys that regularly appear to debate the issue, but.....where are the girls to speak up against this?!?!?

Also, there is a distinct lack of women on these threads that criticise Islam's treatment of women.

Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful for and impressed by the TSR boys that regularly appear to debate the issue, but.....where are the girls to speak up against this?!?!?

I've always wondered that. For example, when a cartoonists draws the prophet, or Bill Maher says a joke, there is outrage on a huge level. Muslims riot on the streets, they go on a rampage and burn busses, embassies etc. Legions of people protests and calls for Blasphemy laws in Western countries...

When Saudi Arabia, obviously being a False Islamic State, does something horrible in the name of Islam, the reaction is merely "Not True Islam". Where is the level of passion you get for blasphemers? Where is call for boycotting Saudi Arabia? Where are the street riots in Egypt and Pakistan when the Grand Mufti issues a fatwa on Pokémon, clearly bringing the religion into disrepute. Or banning women from Starbucks, or Raif Badawi.

Not strictly true. The Beiruit bombing, especially, got a lot of coverage. I even checked the Daily Mail (when having this same discussion with someone) and it had at least a couple of articles every day for several days.

What people seem to forget when bringing this up is that there are several factors that determine newsworthiness. Two of the most important are closeness of connection, and frequency. Something that happens in London is of far more interest to British people and media than something that happens in Baghdad, and vice versa. Paris is just about the closest capital to the UK, and one of the most visited by Brits. We learn French at school. We have a close bond that is centuries old.

And if an event is a regular occurrance, it is less newsworthy that a unique event. The only mystery is why people would think that British people and media would give equal weight to the Paris attacks and the baghdad bomb!

Another thing that some people seem to have missed is that the modern incarnation of Islamist terrorism started years before the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, so those events can't be used as justification. There were several major attacks on US interests before they had invaded anywhere. What was the justification for those?

It would be nice, just occasionally, to see a Muslim group or individuals saying that they unequivocally condemn slavery in all its forms, or that any form of domestic violence is unacceptable, or that every statement that discriminates or opresses on the grounds of gender or sexuality should be robustly denounced.

And condemnations of terrorist atrocities that did not contain a "but..." would be good as well.
As you say, the ummah is more that happy to unite in unequivocal and absolute condemnation (and some crazy ****) over a bit of ink on paper, so why not the same level of unity and condemnation over something that is actually bad, in the real world?

I found this to be the case immediately after the Paris attacks as well. A lot of Islamists and regressive leftists on TSR forwent completely any kind of condemnation of the attacks, instead choosing to moan and cry about the potential backlash against Muslims and/or increased scrutiny of Islam (which hadn't yet materialised). :

I found this to be the case immediately after the Paris attacks as well. A lot of Islamists and regressive leftists on TSR forwent completely any kind of condemnation of the attacks, instead choosing to moan and cry about the potential backlash against Muslims and/or increased scrutiny of Islam (which hadn't yet materialised)

The United States supported Israel. That was one of the 'provocations' cited by bin Laden, if I recall correctly.

If you really wanted to disprove this 'American foreign policy creates Islamist terrorism' nonsense, all you'd need to do is point anybody proposing this to the Barbary wars and the grievance over which they were fought.

The ones who defend Islam bring culture into it when parts of the Quran permit men to beat their wives and have multiple wives anyway.

I don't know why more girls criticise it tbh.

The women are too busy defending a book that claims that Men are superior to women.

But even western women are quiet on the issue!

It makes my head spin, to see comments by women who defend the Quran.

I know! Where's the outrage?

But even western women are quiet on the issue!

It makes my head spin, to see comments by women who defend the Quran.

But even western women are quiet on the issue!

It makes my head spin, to see comments by women who defend the Quran.

Why did s/he get banned?

Also, there is a distinct lack of women on these threads that criticise Islam's treatment of women.

Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful for and impressed by the TSR boys that regularly appear to debate the issue, but.....where are the girls to speak up against this?!?!?

The Muslims girls who know their rights are more than happy with Islam.

Which rights are these, now? If you're referring to the rights conferred by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, then either these girls don't know their rights, or they don't know that Islam doesn't provide them. (Or, in what I expect is a small minority of cases, they actively don't want these rights.)