Are all men liars?

Think this is rubbish, nothing to do with education.

Tl;dr - I have had a string of liars/bad men, why is this happening and how can I stop it?

I've been dating for a while and Im looking for something lasting and serious but for some reason I just keep running into liars.

My last 4 encounters went something like this:

Guy 1: met through uni friends, we dated for about 6 months. He was secretly dependent on weed and lied to me about it. When I realised, I ended it. He seemed upset but then a week later he had a new girlfriend.

Guy 2: met him on a dating site, we got on really well and had a great date. He mentioned his ex who he had been with for 7 years and had recently split up with. I decided not to go on a second date because I got the feeling he wasn't over her. Later I found out he had had another girlfriend (not the 7 year one) the entire time, not sure why he went on a date with me as it was quite clearly cheating. He's now married.

Guy 3: met him at school, ran into him on a dating site. He had listed 'Looking for a long term relationship'. We were getting on really well, until he said his 'head was really messed up at the moment and he didn't see himself falling in love or being in a relationship' - basically had been lying/acting like he wanted a relationship but just wanted easy sex.

Guy 4: met at work on an induction day, got on well but I never gave him my details or anything. Forgot about it until I got an email from him a couple of days later saying 'hi Sophie, was really nice to meet you the other day, do you want to go for a coffee sometime?' I said yes. Then he showed up at my work and tried to sit next to me, kept following me around the office, emailing me all day and repeatedly asking me if I wanted to go to lunch. Eventually I said yes to lunch and we are chatting about who we live with and he ends up admitting he lives with his gf. I was shocked.

Basically - what on earth am I doing wrong? I have met these guys in totally different scenarios and yet they've all ended up being dishonest in some way or another. Does anyone have any tips on how to avoid these guys and find a nice guy who is honest and straightforward? My friend says there's no such thing as a nice guy anymore so I shouldn't hold out hope for something that doesn't exist. Help!

the thing is 999tigger, a liar is much more likely to be caught out and kicked off a degree at undergraduate level. given the amount of work it takes to do a degree. maybe you have never done one, i guess??

Why would you be guessing at my level of education?
Show me some research...

Do a degree and you will learn to validate your own research

Whether you do a degree or not doesnt mean you dont lie...

maybe not, but in this case i am a principled guy. and i only lie when it is to protect the wellbeing of myself or others, ergo good industry practice

Your assertion that lying is linked to education is nonsense.

Tl;dr - I have had a string of liars/bad men, why is this happening and how can I stop it?

I've been dating for a while and Im looking for something lasting and serious but for some reason I just keep running into liars.

My last 4 encounters went something like this:

Guy 1: met through uni friends, we dated for about 6 months. He was secretly dependent on weed and lied to me about it. When I realised, I ended it. He seemed upset but then a week later he had a new girlfriend.

Guy 2: met him on a dating site, we got on really well and had a great date. He mentioned his ex who he had been with for 7 years and had recently split up with. I decided not to go on a second date because I got the feeling he wasn't over her. Later I found out he had had another girlfriend (not the 7 year one) the entire time, not sure why he went on a date with me as it was quite clearly cheating. He's now married.

Guy 3: met him at school, ran into him on a dating site. He had listed 'Looking for a long term relationship'. We were getting on really well, until he said his 'head was really messed up at the moment and he didn't see himself falling in love or being in a relationship' - basically had been lying/acting like he wanted a relationship but just wanted easy sex.

Guy 4: met at work on an induction day, got on well but I never gave him my details or anything. Forgot about it until I got an email from him a couple of days later saying 'hi Sophie, was really nice to meet you the other day, do you want to go for a coffee sometime?' I said yes. Then he showed up at my work and tried to sit next to me, kept following me around the office, emailing me all day and repeatedly asking me if I wanted to go to lunch. Eventually I said yes to lunch and we are chatting about who we live with and he ends up admitting he lives with his gf. I was shocked.

Basically - what on earth am I doing wrong? I have met these guys in totally different scenarios and yet they've all ended up being dishonest in some way or another. Does anyone have any tips on how to avoid these guys and find a nice guy who is honest and straightforward? My friend says there's no such thing as a nice guy anymore so I shouldn't hold out hope for something that doesn't exist. Help!

not true again. if you try to get through uni lying (eg faking your assignments) the chances are you will get caught out and kicked out of uni. yes i've seen it happen!

If you make an assertion then its up to you to back it up, hence me calling it nonsense.

You then out of nowhere make a claim staing what my level of education is, which again is a joke. You seem convinced of this now.

You then link lying to lying about doing a degree, when in fact its perfectly easy not to lie and do a degree as normal, but it doesnt mean you cnat still lie about the topic of this thread which is about being a liar in a relationship.

No. You just suck at picking men, you can't blame all men for your decisions.

Look for the degree educated above, types. Because i think that you will find that doing 3/4/6/7 years of education tends to straighten a guy out. It certainly did me Sophie?

I don't think it's fair to make out that any of this is her fault. The only people who decided to lie were the men, and it's entirely their responsibility.

1. Ive no reason to believe that men lie any more than women.
2. As regards your dating then I think youve just been moderately unlucky. Obviously some men will lie for sex or because its gets them something. If they get caught then they move on. Thing is with your men you seem to have escaped unscathed and you caught them out meaning they werent that good.
3. Plenty of men dont lie, its a bit counterproductive and dull, especually if you want to build trust.

Keep looking, get faster at spotting and booting the dishonest ones and eventually you'll find someone who will be straight. Its importnat that you dont let your bad experiences embitter you towards men or people in general. By getting through the dross then it serves a purpose, which is knowing what you dont want and valuing people who are straightforward and honest. Hang in there.

I agree with your friend, it's really hard to find a nice guy these days and even the nice ones lie


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I'd like to extend my hand and introduce myself. I am a guy who won't lie to you. Not unless it is something which will undoubtedly benefit you, no questions asked. But I wouldn't use a lie to deliberately hurt you. Ever.

Willing to take a risk? Get to know someone who won't hurt you intentionally?