Does fee status affect the chances of getting an MSc offers?

Of course, it does. Especially for non-top universities. Thing is most unis get money from government and the amount they get is based on the "impact" of their research. This means that, if you are not strong at research, you don't get as much money as top unis, meaning that you need to find other revenue sources. International students are one of them.
So assuming that you won't mess their ed stats (% of students passing with good marks and similar), they will probably let you in once they can ensure that you can pay them. In fact, most unis go the extra mile and beyond to portray themselves welcoming to international students, and that's because international students bring badly needed money.

Hmm yeah that makes sense, thanks. In my case the unis are Oxford and Imperial .
Basically I got ILR after submitting my applications... so if I understand correctly and as I would have guessed- if I am OK with higher fees, then better not to ask them to consider me as a home student now I guess?

Nope, home students pay less so you probably won't have as many chances to get in. On the other hand, those are top unis, especially Oxford, so your international status might not be an advantage at all.

What would you do if you were in my position? Money aside, just to increase chances of getting an offer. I am a bit scared also of pissing off the admissions for letting them know of those changes at this stage? I think such things happen very rarely in general..

Most, if not all (decent) universities have 'Fair Admission' policies, which mean that home and international fee status should not be judged differently. For most applications it would be outside of a 'fair admission' policy to reject a Home student over an International student who have equivalent grades and similar experience.

Of course, it does.

It's highly unlikely there will be a limit on Home students. Home students don't get any funding from the government at present (there are loans coming in but that doesn't effect numbers). If you are concerned apply with International status, then if you get an offer ask to be reassessed for fee status. Also remember that funding opportunities are different for international/ Home, you don't want to miss out on opportunities, or apply for something you turn out to be ineligible for.

This is simply not true. There is no concrete evidence to suggest that institutions use fee status to base their decisions. Please only give advice if you know what you're talking about.

It's highly unlikely there will be a limit on Home students. Home students don't get any funding from the government at present (there are loans coming in but that doesn't effect numbers). If you are concerned apply with International status, then if you get an offer ask to be reassessed for fee status. Also remember that funding opportunities are different for international/ Home, you don't want to miss out on opportunities, or apply for something you turn out to be ineligible for.

Most, if not all (decent) universities have 'Fair Admission' policies, which mean that home and international fee status should not be judged differently. For most applications it would be outside of a 'fair admission' policy to reject a Home student over an International student who have equivalent grades and similar experience.

1.The 9k fee applies to undergraduate only. At postgraduate level it's a whole different thing- Universities can charge whatever they want for Home students. 2.In general university funding comes from a lot of different sources, such as fees, government research councils, external funding, endowments/ interest.

It's not a matter a matter of concrete evidence but of logical reasoning (not sure how you plan on getting reputation-destroying evidence, anyway).

Of course, no university that values its reputation will admit to bend the knees to the pile of cash that each international student stands for, but we know that university funding provided by the government has been slashed for a long time, that top unis are the top attraction for international students and the ones getting most of the government extra funding, that postgraduate courses (the vast majority) don't tend to be full at non-top unis and that internationals pay about 3 times (if not more) than home students. It's not hard to see why an international student would be more likely to get an MSc offer at a non-top uni than a home student. Doing otherwise would cause the university to lose money from high tuition fees, lack of research (because research needs money) and lack of extra government funding (because it relies on research).

Of course, it does. Especially for non-top universities.

And 'logical reasoning' is not necessarily fact.



You are ignoring the previous statement you made:



In your above assertion, all universities will be biased in how they select students. It is impossible to assert that fee status results in bias as university admissions remain a multi-step process, with many people involved. Unless we have a standardised admissions process across all universities in the U.K., your assertion is simply false.

It might not be fact but it is deffo better than random guessing. You probably will ask for evidence that tomorrow the sun will rise and even without giving you evidence I could use my powers of reasoning to state that yes, tomorrow the sun will rise. Of course, given your interest on concrete evidence you probably won't believe it. Yet the sun will rise tomorrow. I could make similar statements without concrete evidence with a high rate of success.

And no, university admission at postgrad level for taught courses tends to be a one-person role.

And the interest in international students is a real thing. As I said, international students represent big money and the more of them you can enroll, the more money you get. This doesn't happen at all with home students as that market has already been tapped.

Plus, international students are more likely to bring more money (accommodation fees) which home students might not (cheaper to rent outside uni, easier to find a place if you are a national).

You are assuming that you can compare two qualifications from two different education systems like you could with things like A Levels and BTEC qualifications. That assumption is false. Because of its vary nature, it's very hard to prove when a different judgment has been made. Think about it. If I lower international student a's academic entry criteria, you won't be able to tell because criteria for international students cannot be exactly mapped to that of home students. Hence, you can get away with it. That being said, given the low numbers of postgrad folk (compared to undergrads), the situation doesn't occur.

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