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It is approximately how many Islamic extremists have gone on attacks specifically against westerners, in the west and in other countries to attack westerners. The point is, it's a tiny fraction of Muslims, regardless of whether it is an order of 10 lower or higher than the actual number.

Their version of Islam.

Interesting.

And you used that number to refer to the number of active Islamists, which is clearly dishonest and an underestimate. You've been caught out, have the grace to stop digging

It's clearly not "1500 out of 1.5 billion" who hold these views and support this kind of behaviour, and we are absolutely entitled to blame the tens of millions of Muslims who support these actions for creating the atmosphere that allows this ideology to grow

Asks for evidence.
Shown evidence.
Rejects evidence.

SMH.

Next time I'm reading the quran, I'll make sure I don't get inspired to blow anyone up.

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Oh give over, stop putting words in my mouth.

Was that supposed to be funny?

I'm using your own words, grow up and take responsibility for what you said. You said


There are clearly far more than 1500 Muslims who are responsible for the jihadist movement, both in the West and abroad, and you are being clearly dishonest to try to claim that the only people who count towards that number are those who have been involved in attacks in the West.

Considering you claimed that the quran tells us to do this.

I suppose if it wasn't a deeply distressing topic, it would be hilarious.

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I see you don't know what 1,500 was referring to.

It is approximately how many Islamic extremists have gone on attacks specifically against westerners, in the west and in other countries to attack westerners. The point is, it's a tiny fraction of Muslims, regardless of whether it is an order of 10 lower or higher than the actual number.

Didn't read what i said

1,500 is roughly the number who, in the past, have attacked westerners.

so why arnrt you comparing this figure to the much smaller number of muslims who live in europe ( approx 50m) rather than the billion world population you quoted earlier?

if we look at islamic terrorism accross the globe, we are probably talkng about 100 of times more attrocities

and i take it from your silence you are in fact simply a muslim that has no problem with islamic doctrine

Didn't read what i said

1,500 is roughly the number who, in the past, have attacked westerners.

And even if it is 15,000 or 150, it is still a tiny percentile of all Muslims worldwide, and it is therefore unfair to blame all Muslims for the actions of 0.001% of them.

Yeah I know
I don't believe they are religious or are doing it in the name of religion. If your doing it in the name of Islam why would you be killing your own people? They bomb Mosques...kill their own 'fellow' Muslims in these attacks etc...Wasn't one of the police officers in the Charlie Hebdo attacks Muslim?

No, you said that all Muslims should not be blamed "for the actions of 1500 out of 1.5 billion". Clearly there are far more than 1500 who are involved in the Islamist ideology, who finance it and provide material and moral support.

You said the words, stop getting huffy and upset when you are called on it.



It's not 15000, it's tens of millions. And yes, Muslims as a whole are responsible for allowing this cancer to grow in their community

Yes, that is exactly the point I'm making, they have an interpretation of Islam, but it is still Islam and the claim that they are not true Muslims and are not inspired by Islamic ideology is false and actually dangerous, because it means we're not addressing the problem at its core.

you have to accept that these islamists could not have operated under the radr in molenbeek ( a large islamic community) for so long with out tacit support from other community members.
people seem to think ideology is not a problem , when it is at the root cause for pretty much all islamic terrorism. all it needs is a politcal motive to spark an attrocity .. all the apologists for islamic groups and their ideology are linked in some part to each attrocity im afraid.

You seem to have mistaken me for someone else.
I absolutely agree that the aims of certain islamist groups is a global caliphate under strict sharia based on a literal interpretation of the Quran and sunnah.

As I said, the purpose of these attacks is not to bring the West to the negotiating table, or to secure withdrawal of forces. It is simply to engender a climate of fear and mistrust between Muslim communities and host nations, which they think will make more civil unrest more likely, thus furthering their agenda. The fact that other Asians or North Africans are caught up in the standoff is of little consequence to either the Islamists, or those racist xenophobes who use the situation to further their own agenda, and thus distracting those in the middle ground from the actual issue (there is nothing the liberal left fears more than accusations of racism).