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Free speech is truly dying

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Original post by Dodgypirate


What he said didn't warrant an arrest. A lot of people are angry about the attacks and act irrationally due to their anger. We should be arresting those who are endorsing the attacks.


That doesnt make sense. Care to elaborate?
Original post by 999tigger
That doesnt make sense. Care to elaborate?


It doesn't make sense or you don't want it to make sense. It was plain English.
Reply 62
Original post by mackemforever
Freedom of speech does not mean you have the freedom to insult and cause offence to people for discriminatory reasons.


Yes it does.
Original post by joecphillips
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35888748

Free speech has to protect stupidity and the right to be wrong.
Wha he has done is stupid it doesn't incite racial hatred and arresting him for it will not solve any problem, if you think the way to solve a problem is by attacking people's thoughts the people will react.

It seems the 46% are getting their way.


He should be locked up for the rest of his life. Free speech should exist but with limits such not attacking the words of the Quran and Allah, not offending Muslims, not offending the religious needs and acts, not offending our cultures. These all constitute as hate speech, racism, xenophobia and fascism
Reply 64
Original post by Arsenal96123
He should be locked up for the rest of his life. Free speech should exist but with limits such not attacking the words of the Quran and Allah, not offending Muslims, not offending the religious needs and acts, not offending our cultures. These all constitute as hate speech, racism, xenophobia and fascism


Free speech can't exist with limits, placing limits on speech means it isn't free.
There is no right to not be offended.
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Original post by Lady Comstock
Yes, it does and should. One of the reasons it does and should is because "offence" and "insult" are subjective - your freedom of speech is another man's insult and offence, and vice versa.


Wrong, you can have freedom of speech without attacking the teachings and values of Islam
Original post by mackemforever
Freedom of speech does not mean you have the freedom to insult and cause offence to people for discriminatory reasons.


Offence is taken, not given.
Original post by joecphillips
Free speech can't exist with limits, placing limits on speech means it isn't free


Allah created you so what gives you the right to attack his teachings?
Reply 68
Original post by Arsenal96123
Allah created you so what gives you the right to attack his teachings?


Allah is imaginary, it is like saying iron man saved the world.
Original post by Arsenal96123
Wrong, you can have freedom of speech without attacking the teachings and values of Islam


Would you consider 'questioning' a form of attack? Islam can't get special treatment because it offends you when people question or scrutinise Islam, its teachings and its values. People like Richard Dawkins do this all the time.
Original post by Lady Comstock
In a theocratic state maybe, but not in a democracy with universal human rights.


If your twisted version of freedom of speech encompasses insult to Islam, Muslims, Islamic law and vaules, then that means it encompasses fascism, hate speech, racism and xenophobia. If you want a fascist state then that says a lot about you
Original post by Dodgypirate
Would you consider 'questioning' a form of attack? Islam can't get special treatment because it offends you when people question or scrutinise Islam, its teachings and its values. People like Richard Dawkins do this all the time.

Challenging Allah's teachings is an insult yes
Original post by Arsenal96123
If your twisted version of freedom of speech encompasses insult to Islam, Muslims, Islamic law and vaules, then that means it encompasses fascism, hate speech, racism and xenophobia. If you want a fascist state then that says a lot about you


Not responding to an obvious troll. The "lock him up for life" gave you away - be more subtle next time. 8/10.
Original post by BaconandSauce
There's also no right that says you have to be a dick to strangers

There's a time and a place

irrelevant, is there a law that stipulates 'common decency'?


going up to someone and asking them "to explain the Brussels attacks" is hardly harassment. Would you say street preachers and homeless people asking for money are similarly guilty of harassment?
Original post by Arsenal96123
Challenging Allah's teachings is an insult yes


To you it is, but to me who doesn't believe in "Allah", it doesn't... get over it.
If this is what some people define free speech is then I'm glad it's dying.
Reply 76
Original post by Craig1998
If this is what some people define free speech is then I'm glad it's dying.


Why?
Original post by Dodgypirate
It doesn't make sense or you don't want it to make sense. It was plain English.


Ok ive read it back and see what you mean but the points didnt help.

You are against his arrest.
You understand people are irrational after the attacks.
You are only interested in those supporting the attacks, although you make no comment on whether his actions amount to any support of the islamophobia and general anti muslim feeling.
Reply 78
Diversity is strength!

Open borders for all White nations!
Original post by joecphillips
Why?


Does that question really need answering?

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