The state of Israel

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Reply 80

jokesonyou

@Aceadria 's probably hiding under a rock until this thread is closed.

Reply 81

username471863

Original post by cosmicstarbeast

All I know is the majorly people who call out Israel, doing protests and trashing European Jewish people's properties ain't about that life.

They will shout and protest in the safety of first world countries but never go and confront Israelis on their own turf.

The largest protest in this country during summer 2014 was peaceful. I don't deny that there are hooligans who have attacked Jews and their properties but many of the critics and protesters have no interest in "confronting" ordinary Israeli people.

Reply 82

cosmicstarbeast

Original post by WBZ144

I know that and I support those who are wise about this current situation. Also, I never meant Israelis in general, lol.

Reply 83

KimKallstrom

A quick question for some of you lot. Honest answers please. What do you think of Hamas?

Reply 84

username2228735

Let's make it clear that Israelis are not only Jews.

Criticism of Israel is not and should not be considered antisemitic. The problem is, however, that very few people on this forum and in the wider community understand that stereotyping Jews as 'bloodthirsty' or 'money-hungry' is not only bigoted but it's irrelevant to the discussion. Criticise Israel for it's weaknesses but don't do it simply because you feel that Jews 'control the world'. That is antisemitic and cannot be accepted.

Reply 85

Slutty Salafi

Original post by Aceadria

Spot on.

It's completely fine to pick out an incident of Israel doing something cruel or unfair such as the settlement policy and saying that's wrong, but the moment you start spouting crap about Zionists controlling the world, you're a racist simple and plain.

Reply 86

username2228735

Original post by Slutty Salafi

It's completely fine to pick out an incident of Israel doing something cruel or unfair such as the settlement policy and saying that's wrong, but the moment you start spouting crap about Zionists controlling the world, you're a racist simple and plain.

Indeed. Equally frustrating is that few have actually read or understood what Zionism is and just how historically complex it is.

Reply 87

Slutty Salafi

Original post by Aceadria

Indeed. Equally frustrating is that few have actually read or understood what Zionism is and just how historically complex it is.

Gosh that too is awfully difficult for most people on TSR. The original Zionists were left-wing and pro-Arab. It wasn't this aggressive imperialist Jewish crusader outfit, of course the aggression the Jewish people have faced has created a hardline backlash, but that was never the origin of the movement.

Reply 88

username2228735

Original post by Slutty Salafi

Indeed.

Reply 89

queen-bee

Original post by Slutty Salafi

I read that as pan-Arab instead of pro Arab and was just like whaaaaat

Reply 90

Kielbasa

Original post by queen-bee

I read that as pan-Arab instead of pro Arab and was just like whaaaaat

pan-arabism is actually far more interesting than zionism

maybe that can be your next thread :wink:

Reply 91

Slutty Salafi

Original post by queen-bee

I read that as pan-Arab instead of pro Arab and was just like whaaaaat

Funny you should say that, there was a theme of wanting to heal the disunity within the Arab world also. Obviously some Arabs are nationalist, some are Islamist, some are socialist, some are pan-Arab themselves of course.