Why are people against eugenics?

My post has everything to do with yours as it focues on the overcoming external stimuli such as diseases.
Say you went ahead with the eugenics and you got rid of all diseases known to man and then 10 years after your "successful" program a new disease pops up and wipes away 90% of your very little diverse population, what happens then? Extinction of the human race?

It's impossible for a new disease to wipe out 90% of a population that employs eugenics. A virus could do it, but that's a different topic. Disease can only wipe out 90% of a population that continues the practice of non-infected people breeding with infected people. That's how disease propagates.

Arguably natural selection

Eugenics is more something that has conscious effort behind it, isn't it? E.g. a campaign to make intelligent men and women more desirable would be eugenics, imo.

If you have to factor in diversity in eugenics, then it wouldn't be eugenics since you would be allowing "unfit" genes to reproduce.

And yes, I'll still be against it as per the diversity arguement.

Then, of course, there's a market for it. And only the rich could afford 'designer babies', with hugely improved traits.Then you've got two classes of humans - the 'improved', and the 'unimproved'.Inequality at its finest.That's why I'm not sold on eugenics.

The difference between enhancing the human species with genetic screening and enhancing it with genetic engineering is that genetic screening would select an embryo which could have plausibly come into existence anyway, whereas a genetically engineered human would most likely possess wildly different abilities to some of its peers.

Your post has nothing to do with mine. I'm saying that the "outbreeding" of disease has nothing to do with the designation of certain traits or abilities as being more desirable than others, or with the extermination or sterilization of people who don't possess those desirable traits (whatever they might be deemed to be by whomever might deem them so). And I fully acknowledge that human beings' corruptible nature would make it impossible for us to implement a morally sound eugenics program at this juncture of our existence. I'm just saying that the intent of the eugenics movement as originally conceived was simply to eliminate suffering caused by disease, not to pick and choose the attributes of our offspring.

Humans have more hope than mere chance of deciding which genes are in our long term interests



Technology will almost certainly make it relatively easy to create a 'library' of genes, and we could probably reintroduce genes if environmental changes necessitated it. There are other ways of introducing genes, other than editing genes of embryos. E.g. retro virus gene therapy, which would not affect children, and therefore a good measure to protect against temporary problems.

Sorry but you just come off as racist and quite frankly like a troll.

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If we limit ourselves to wild type gene replacement and not introducing wild new genetic networks into, then genetically engineered humans would not possess any wildly different characteristics.

a more interesting dilemma is that some autistic disorders have high average intelligence - e.g. Aspergers. Eugenics to increase intelligence could end up increasing autistic disorders.

A counter argument would be that the 'inferior' humans would be improved to the level of the 'superior' humans by eugenics... I don't see how eugenics would encourage the creation of an obviously 'inferior' group of humans, rather than seeking to improve them

The OP does not know what he/she is talking about. He/she claims cancer can be eradicated with eugenics which is a ignorant thing to claim because most cancers are not hereditary and many people only get cancer after the age when most people have already had children.

The OP also fails to understand that many cancers are caused when genes are modified after mitosis and differs from the genes they inherited.

The OP also fails to take into account the changing environment people will live in. Babies designed for one period in time will likely to be less successful in a different time when they are being educated and working.

Its a good thing eugenics is not being practiced now since the OP would most likely have been eliminated from the gene pool for ignorance.

While it's true that a lot of cancers aren't hereditary, there are genes associated with having a higher chance of developing certain cancers. Therefore you could reduce the possibility of developing cancer. I may have said 'cancers' but I never said eradicated. I did, however, claim that ms could be eradicated, which is true, you arrogant dick.

I don't fail 'to understand that many cancers are caused when genes are modified after mitosis and differs from the genes they inherited', I'm well aware of this fact. You just assumed that I didn't. Therefore, making you come across as ignorant.

The only thing I ever suggested was the eradication of hereditary illnesses. In what possible future could an illness such as ms, sickle cell anaemia, or cystic fibrosis be useful? All of which cause unnecessary pain and suffering whilst also reducing quality of life.

And your final point, my potential non-existence if eugenics had been practiced because of your belief that I'm ignorant. Is incorrect, eugenics would never focus on someone being ignorant, if you consider the fact that that isn't genetic.

Since 50% of people will get some form of cancer, you need to eliminate 50% of the people to get rid of the cancer associated genes but that still won't eliminate cancer since there are many other causes such as UV radiation, viruses and chemicals like asbestos which are not related to genes.

Its pretty stupid to get rid of half the people for diseases that are increasingly treatable, survival rates for nearly all types of cancer is increasing with better treatment. Implementing eugenics will reverse that trend because people will not waste resources on diseases that is supposed to be eliminated in a few generations.

You need to chill bro, getting stressed is bad for your health and may eliminate you from the gene pool.