The Liverpool FC Thread XIV

I'd be disappointed tbh. Origi might give you running and work-rate but he won't give you the same quality as Sturridge to put that leather sphere into that rectangle thing.

The goal at the weekend against Spurs - would Origi create that chance like Sturridge did?

Yh but most of our chances are going to come off the counter, Origi will be more suited for that rather than Sturridge who will be reluctant to sprint on the break.

Well our chances will only be on the counter if we play with Origi since he doesn't have the same level of intelligence and movement as Sturridge. The whole point of having players like Coutinho in the side is to create chances through creative football.

I don't know - I just think we don't have enough (or any) natural goalscorers if you don't have Sturridge on the pitch. Would be fine if the rest of the squad knew how to score.

We are playing against Dortmund who are better at pressing and retaining possession than us and are better on every position. We will be forced deep and have no choice at times but to play on the counter, Sturridge or no Sturridge.

I'd be disappointed tbh. Origi might give you running and work-rate but he won't give you the same quality as Sturridge to put that leather sphere into that rectangle thing.

The goal at the weekend against Spurs - would Origi create that chance like Sturridge did?

While I'm sure we'll get chances (I watched the Dortmund vs Augsburg game the other week and was astounded at the chances Tuchel's lot afforded the opposition, especially during the opening stages) I'd be happy with Sturridge playing the final half an hour. Use him in the latter portion of the match, because he has hardly been clinical recently and I don't feel we can compensate for a lack of work-rate.

I'd still expect us to create a few chances on the night - do you want those to fall to Origi or Sturridge?

Also think if we play with Origi, more players will just lump the ball up to him rather than actually trying to play our game. What's the point if we're bypassing Coutinho/Lallana all the time?

I still think - and believe Klopp thinks - that this side can still compete with anyone on a given (good) day. Are Dortmund significantly better than every English club in the league? We've given a pretty good account of ourselves under Klopp this season against all the traditional big names.

Probably because I'm not as pedantic as you. I'm generally talking about Henderson getting into attacking positions whether he runs through to the 6 yard box or gets into the penalty box or is just outside the penalty box in an attacking position to score.

Not sure what you are trying to narrowing characterise as 'lung busting run into the box' a la Lampard. Isn't getting into an attacking position the same as getting into an attacking position?

Err you were disputing that he gets into the box..? I was just pointing out you can make that run even if you don't score from it.

The chances may not even fall to Sturridge at all if he is not willing to sprint in behind.

I'm not sure he'll get up to speed quickly in a game where he's thrown in where it's likely to be high tempo. More likely to work his way into the game from the start?

I just feel the striker, whoever it is, is going to be isolated tonight. They may cut a frustrated figure at times, and will need to work and work. Those traits lie more overtly in Origi than Sturridge, in my honest opinion.

The chances may not even fall to Sturridge at all if he is not willing to sprint in behind.

Disagree. Origi can pack a day's worth of running in from minute one, so I'd be tempted to start him because the game won't be as high tempo in the latter stages. If the game is stretched, I'd prefer Sturridge than Origi later on.

I just feel the striker, whoever it is, is going to be isolated tonight. They may cut a frustrated figure at times, and will need to work and work. Those traits lie more overtly in Origi than Sturridge, in my honest opinion.

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Well Origi won't have the same level of quality as the other players on the pitch. Maybe it's better to use him when the Dortmund players aren't as fresh?

Yea I think you're right about being isolated. Guess Origi would stretch via the channels more where Sturridge is probably more likely to come in deep to get involved.

I also think Sturridge will just become so frustrated on nights like tonight, if he was running for 70 minutes with little purchase or reward. I can just imagine his face now, being substituted on 65 or 70 without scoring.

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