What sexism have you experienced personally? (male & female)

Umm my eyes are up here thank you

I know my anatomy, you know, I could even find your mouth if I had to.

Typical men

General objectification

Belief that I can't do certain things (even as small as carrying boxes at work ffs - mate I can do that and I'm wearing heels)

Assumption that I'm dumb and disinterested in things like politics

Assumption that I'm incapable of humour

Assumption that I'll get upset over minute things and react emotionally and negatively

Belief that my bum is there for everyone to play with

Belief that I'll take phrases like "I'd **** her" from strangers on the tube as a compliment

Assumption that I'd like a strange man who spoke to me on the bus to walk me home

Assumption that I'll give my phone number out like it's the Big Issue

The list goes on

It may be crass but how can it be taken as anything other than a compliment? He's saying you're attractive.

the same could be said about rape?

It came from a child and he and his brother laughed about it for a while.

I've been through enough. I don't need children only viewing me as a sexual object too. Because that's essentially what it is.

I suppose it could be said about rape too, although that's not as clear cut because there's elements like power and opportunity in that case.

"I'd **** her" is just a ruder version of "I think she's attractive" which seems like a clear compliment to me. Even if the receiver feels the offensiveness outweighs the compliment.

Why is it OK for it to be a veiled compliment in one case but not in the other?

I didn't say that? Rape could also be considered a compliment (as it suggests they think you're attractive), but to a smaller extent due to all the other factors involved in it (i.e. rapists don't rape people purely on attractiveness).

and no I'm obviously not saying rape isn't a bad thing, before someone says that

You implied that owing to its complimentary undertone, "I'd **** her" is an appropriate thing to say about someone in hearing distance of that person. You also said that rape could also be considered complimentary. Why is one bad but the other not, based on these grounds? They are both veiled compliments.

Imo, compliments should be forthright. They should not make people feel sad, vulnerable and objectified.

I don't think I did imply it's appropriate to say. The complimentary undertone is outweighed by the bad stuff, people shouldn't go around saying they'd **** people within earshot of that person. But there is a compliment in there, that was my point.

perhaps this is all semantics and we're basically saying the same thing

You said it can't be taken as anything but a compliment......

Which means I was wrong to perceive it negatively because it is nothing more than a compliment. I realise that you're withdrawing this initial point; at least we're on the same page now.

Bad wording really, I meant more like "how can it not be taken as a compliment".

Oops went and ate it anyway...

Because it is offensive and suggests that all the guy sees when he looks at me is a good ****????

It can have a complimentary aspect and an offensive aspect. Well yeah tbh when all you know about someone is what they look like, the main thing you can think is whether they're attractive, which is a polite version of "I'd **** them".

Why is it OK for it to be a veiled compliment in one case but not in the other?

The offensiveness outweighs the compliment in both cases.