Feminist bake sale ends in rape and death threats?

Also discounts for being a 'person of colour'

Imagine if there were discounts for being white - there'd be national outrage, and discrimination charges

'with prices set at the proportion of the dollar female graduates of each faculty earned relative to men.
Prices for each baked good started at $1 for students who identified as men, with deductions for women and more for those in male-dominated industries'

Morons. Male graduates earning more than female graduates of a certain faculty is not inherently sexist. There are a whole host of probable causes, like the higher earning potential in fields men choose to go into more often

I have yet to see any convincing evidence that an unjustified gender pay gap exists. I think these people are just a bit stupid and desperate to have something to purposefully campaign about

Maybe they should have done something like the inverse of what Gillette do with their 'Venus' razors instead - price the pink-iced cakes with flower sprinkles on them at 77c, and any cake that doesn't look ridiculously fouffy at $1. Guys could either be happy to find their inner fairy princess, or pay more for a more 'manly' cake. It's a win either way. (I know a few would still stomp and complain and be petulant five year olds, but some people just can't be helped, and at least the cake sellers would be the ones saying "what's the matter love, can't you take a joke? It's just a bit of fun, lighten up, where's your sense of humour?")

Amused by the people who think the pay gap doesn't exist, though. That contradicts what the Law Society, the NHS, and the Institution of Chemical Engineers, just to cite the first three hits, have said about pay within their own professions in the last year. Bit weird for professional bodies to be putting their hands up and saying "we have a problem" if they really don't. I didn't think lawyers, in particular, were known for 'fessing up to things they haven't done. Droll.

Lol.


It's not sexist because males have better access to fields with "higher earning potential". Bit contradictory that.

What do you think causes the over representation of males in the higher earning fields sweetheart? Do you actually think that males are born with an innate preference for such careers, or an innate set of superior skills that makes them more competent in such fields?

Or do you not think, that it's just a little bit social?

The first one. You're welcome.

I didn't say anything about men having better 'access' to these jobs and that's nonsense. Patronising initiatives like all-women shortlists have made it much easier for women to get into these jobs than men. The uncomfortable realities are that there are not as many women who are interested in these routes as men and also that men are predisposed to be more successful in them in general.

'with prices set at the proportion of the dollar female graduates of each faculty earned relative to men.
Prices for each baked good started at $1 for students who identified as men, with deductions for women and more for those in male-dominated industries'

Morons. Male graduates earning more than female graduates of a certain faculty is not inherently sexist. There are a whole host of probable causes, like the higher earning potential in fields men choose to go into more often

I have yet to see any convincing evidence that an unjustified gender pay gap exists. I think these people are just a bit stupid and desperate to have something to purposefully campaign about

Lol.


It's not sexist because males have better access to fields with "higher earning potential". Bit contradictory that.

What do you think causes the over representation of males in the higher earning fields sweetheart? Do you actually think that males are born with an innate preference for such careers, or an innate set of superior skills that makes them more competent in such fields?

Or do you not think, that it's just a little bit social?

All right. Let's take a look at what you're saying.

Men are 13 times more likely to die on the job than women, thanks in large part to men being willing to take far riskier jobs that entail greater pay than women like underwater welder, highrise construction worker or professional mercenary(Such as working for the very high-paying and risky Blackwater group).

Let's take the most dangerous job in America and see how sexism prevents women from joining.

http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-dangerous-jobs/

Can you explain how sexism prevents women from buying their own fishing boat and going to either capture Alaskan King Crabs or those 800 lb Tuna or swordfishing boats?

Or perhaps being a pilot? Surrounded by the overwhelmingly female Cabin Crew couldn't result in a lot of sexism for them at work.

Or perhaps you're worried about the sexism inherent in logging communities? Can you point to any study showing sexism in logging communities that isn't 30 years old?

That's just as an example - The top 3 most dangerous jobs. All overwhelmingly done by males and none of which seem to have any real sexism attached to them. And all of which have a very decent pay.

And that somehow justifies it does it?

It's ironic that for something that was held at a university, none of them researched the topic.

Having said that, to threaten someone with rape simply because they are selling cupcakes is outrageous. If someone is being ignorant, you should laugh at them and walk away; not threaten to kill and/or sexually abuse them.

Okay. So what the bake sale was based on was wrong. It was based around charging one gender more than another gender and treating genders differently is by definition sexist.

But you know what I hate worse than sexism?

Rape. And death. Like I would much rather someone make a disparaging comment about men than to rape or kill me.

Men's Rights Activists make some good points. They have definitely pointed out a hypocrisy in the conversation about sexism. Great. But you know what hurts their cause more than anything?

Guys like that. If this was about a bunch of guys saying they walked up and said they identified as left-handed, lesbian Micmac Indian lawyers and demanded free baked goods in an attempt to point out the hypocrisy and lack of internal consistency in the opposing beliefs, I'd have highfived them and laughed at their clearly more defensible position.

But until an MRA bake sale receives rape and death threats for any sexist acts, I've gotta say that this particular group of feminists were in the right here. Their bake sale was ill-conceived, but being offered expensive baked goods is not worse than having someone threaten to kill and sexually violate me.

Of course TSR is more outraged at a ****ing feminist bake sale than rape and death threats.

Can you not see the one fundamental problem with this post?

All those jobs are physical. Not once have I, or any other sane individual believed that females are just as capable of completing physical work as males. There is no doubt that males are more physically capable than women, on average. Not even just on average, the vast majority of cases. And that small minority of women who are just as physical, do tend to do physical jobs. Therefore the representation of females in physical workforces is in proportion to the actual physical capabilities of the female population. It is justified.

However, there are no such differences in cognitive abilities. There is no evidence to suggest that, and anyone who isn't inherently sexist can observe the lack of difference in their day to day lives. Therefore in well paid careers that are not physical, there is an over-representation of men, in proportion to mental capabilities of the female population. It is not justified.

If I were born a man, would I be stronger? Undoubtedly.

If I were born a man, would I be smarter? Undoubtedly not. Although I'd probably have more confidence in my abilities, but that's another matter.

And before I see a reply brushing off the underrepresentation of females in STEM careers, read my previous post. And if you still persistently believe that males are somehow naturally more inclined and more successful at such jobs, show me the studies. And I mean peer-reviewed articles, not a source akin to returnofthekings.com


Edit: Actual I presume that physically capable females are also underrepresented in the physical workforce because even if they are physically capable, they face more social barriers.