White Lives Matter

I don't think using stereotypical gifs/images of black people really helps in a discussion about racism.

In fact, why are so many gifs based on stereotypical, exaggerated black reactions and emotions? There's something a bit exploitative about it

Why do people think police brutality is only an issue for black people? According to the American Bureau of Justice, from 2003 to 2006 (most recent available) 1,134 white people were victims of arrest-related deaths in the US compared to 834 blacks (http://www.bjs.gov/content/dcrp/tables/dcst06let3.pdf). Police brutality is not a white vs. black issue, it is a law enforcement vs. civilian issue. I don't claim to know about issues of race in the UK, but I do know quite a bit about these issues in the US. It's not only blacks that are getting harassed, beaten and killed by police - it's everyone across the spectrum of every ethnicity.

Imagine the impact we could make if we all banded together as CITIZENS, regardless of color, and addressed the problem as a united front against law enforcement's ******** ego-driven disregard for human life.

LOL, still no reply.


The ACLU probably didn't give him the next cue card.

You guys ever heard of percentages?

Yes we have.

And according to the FBI and the department of justice, black people account for only 13% of the population of America, yet account for over 49% of the homicides, and gang related incarcerations.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

Yes we have.

And according to the FBI and the department of justice, black people account for only 13% of the population of America, yet account for over 49% of the homicides, and gang related incarcerations.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

Here are some more statistics you probably wont like

In 2010, the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that African Americans receive 10% longer sentences than whites through the federal system for the same crimes.

African-Americans comprise only 13% of the U.S. population and 14% of the monthly drug users, but are 37% of the people arrested for drug-related offenses in America

Studies show that police are more likely to pull over and frisk blacks or Latinos than whites. In New York City, 80% of the stops made were blacks and Latinos, and 85% of those people were frisked, compared to a mere 8% of white people stopped.

After being arrested, African-Americans are 33% more likely than whites to be detained while facing a felony trial in New York.

So you know how percentages work, and yet you still think comparing the absolute figures for arrest related deaths of blacks and whites is somehow valid?

You're stupid, the UK wont be the fastest growing economy in the western without the skilled immigrants that come into the UK and work in both the service and goods sector. Without them the productive potential of the country would be much lower. You clearly dont know anything about economics, this is basic common knowledge.

Read the context you fool, i said that because the guy i replied to said the UK had open borders.

Dont quote me with your bigoted views, you come here to have a stab at muslims when its completely irrelevant.

Where did I do that?

Well, you didn't make the argument, but you had your tongue up the ass of the guy who did.

Oh calm down, you'll have a brain aneurysm. I'll quote who I want.

The UK economy, according to wikipedia is at $2.853 trillion and grew at 2.3% in 2015. 2.3% of $2.853 trillion is $65b. Net migration into the UK in 2015 was 323,000.

That means that each migrant would have to have contributed $202,941 (£142,720) per capita/person to create just that surplus of 2.3% ($65b), ignoring the other $2.8 trillion produced to reach 'break even' and prevent a recession.

Very obviously this is not the case. Let's be incredibly generous and say that each migrant contributes $41,787 to the UK economy, which is the UK population's average. 323,000 x $41,787 = $13,497,201,000 = $13 billion.

$13,497,201,000 (maximum potential economic contribution of every migrant in 2015) is just 0.473% of $2.853,000,000,000 (total 2015 British GDP)

So at the very maximum under this incredibly generous assumption we could claim that migration into the UK in 2015 contributed to only 0.5% of total British GDP. In reality we know that migrants don't contribute anywhere near $41,787 per person and as such that percentage, truthfully, is even smaller.

Immigration is hardly the mighty engine of the British economy and you trying to slander me won't make it true. I'm certainly not a bigot and where did I even mention Islam or Muslims in my previous post?

Where did I do that?

– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.
http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/aug/21/michael-medved/talk-show-host-police-kill-more-whites-blacks/

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Here are some more statistics you probably wont like

In 2010, the U.S. Sentencing Commission reported that African Americans receive 10% longer sentences than whites through the federal system for the same crimes.

After being arrested, African-Americans are 33% more likely than whites to be detained while facing a felony trial in New York.

You also did it here, you mug. Maybe you should read the article before you post.

"Rather than comparing the raw numbers, you can look at the likelihood that a person will die due to "legal intervention" in the same way you might look at the chance a person will die in a car accident or a disease like lung cancer. When you do that, the numbers flip.

A 2002 study in the American Journal of Public Health found that the death rate due to legal intervention was more than three times higher for blacks than for whites in the period from 1988 to 1997."

Because these gifs are funny and often express how posters feel at that point.

White lives matter because people say you can't even be racist against us despite being the most tolerant people in the world to other races except for maybe the Chinese and Thai people. So because we are so tolerant that excuses you to abuse us? I don't think so.

I agree with a lot of what you just said my friend, but my question here is how you arrived at a $41,787 figure per immigrant?

I guess you also missed the part where my point is proven with this simple quote, you tosser.



"The Bureau of Justice Statistics reported that in 2004, state courts had over 1 million felony convictions. Of those, 59 percent were committed by whites and 38 percent by blacks. But when you factor in the population of whites and blacks, the felony rates stand at 330 per 100,000 for whites and 1,178 per 100,000 for blacks. That’s more than a three-fold difference."

... No.

Here's what happened. You said that whites are twice as likely to be killed by police. You posted this article as proof. Same article actually says that while the raw numbers for police deaths are roughly twice as high for white people, the likelihood is three times higher for blacks. Don't start talking about felony rates, because that's not what we're talking about.

I suppose the point I'm getting at is that I feel these gifs are often based on stereotyped perceptions of black people's behaviour (that it is exaggerated, outlandish, snippy etc) that themselves come from racism and systemic inequality; the media has played up to these stereotypes which provides a solid output of gifs

I think those gifs are almost like an updated version of this cartoon below; it's outrageously racist (and from the 1930s I think) but basically you are seeing all the elements of behaviour that you see in the gifs

[video="youtube;sls5H4xVHys"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sls5H4xVHys[/video]