The Manchester United Thread XIX

(Follow up post in Liverpool thread):

tl;dr: I'm a winner, I don't care about making up the numbers and 'taking part is all that counts' - that's bs to satisfy the losers (like Arsenal). In the history books, you either won the competition/league or you didn't. We should be doing everything to maximise our opportunity of title/cup success and that starts with the FA Cup and proceeds with the league next year.

Couldn't give a flying fluck if we won the FA cup and missed out on CL.

(Follow up post in Liverpool thread):



To be fair, we are in a very different situation to yourselves, so perhaps my opinion is very bias to the point of view of Manchester United. I guess you guys need the CL to draw players and produce revenue; essentially you need to ignite the waking of the sleeping giant.

Whereas we will attract top players for the next 5 years and still produce ridiculous revenue figures regardless of whether we qualify for CL. Therefore for Manchester United, if we have no chance of winning the CL, I would just rather focus on winning the Premiership which is a very realistic aim. It's clear how Leicester are benefiting from no European fixtures. Our squad isn't big enough to deal with the demands of Europe too.

Is that loser mentality? Or is it considering realistic targets and altering priorities accordingly to achieve the best outcome, potentially a league title because we can put all our eggs in that basket rather than spreading our squad too thin on competitions we have no chance of winning.

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If our squad was capable of fighting on all fronts I would be all for the extra European fixtures, but when we have to rely on 19 year old's, play CAM's and strikers on the wing because we don't have anyone else, I'm not sure extra fixtures is really what we need.

Our most realistic target should be to win the FA Cup this season and challenge for the league next season. We will not be winning the CL for some time, so Premiership has to take priority.

It would be interesting to gather other peoples opinions on this. I think it comes down to your mindset; pragmatism vs hope, of course in an ideal world we would just get Lukaku, Ibra, Griezmann, Stones, Mahrez and Payet in the summer so squad depth isn't a problem.

tl;dr: I'm a winner, I don't care about making up the numbers and 'taking part is all that counts' - that's bs to satisfy the losers (like Arsenal). In the history books, you either won the competition/league or you didn't. We should be doing everything to maximise our opportunity of title/cup success and that starts with the FA Cup and proceeds with the league next year.

Also, if you lot won the FA Cup this season would LVG still stay? Or are you guys getting in Mourinho/another manager? I haven't really been following United lately.

Regardless of an FA Cup win he's gone.

We aren't Arsenal FC

Louis van Gaal: "We are in the race for the first four positions in the league and still in the FA Cup, so I'm very happy about that."

Very happy? Ffs

Fergie said he was worried by Klopp's appointment at Liverpool and judging from yesterday's comeback and the way they are set up to, potentially, win the EL and grab a CL place which would give them extra pulling power plus Klopp's magnetism to lure a higher quality of player, they could do well next season and with Pep/Conte etc, it'd be demoralising having LVG in charge. I think and I hope the reason why he's so pushing the FA Cup as a title is because it'd be HIS title. His title he can give to the club and then say - if top four wasn't achieved - I will go and they'll come to an agreement. But if top four was achieved, really feel Ed would keep him.

I read that Jose going to PSG Imagine being stuck with souless LVG football for another year, followed by Giggs trying to be manager eeeekkk!

I actually think we have a good chance of winning the FA cup if we play well as we dont have to play any more "big" teams in London which is what we seem to be bad at atm.

Also does anyone actually know what position TFM is actually meant to play?

Just imagine we had Klopp *sigh*

As for us well it looks like LVG is staying for another season and sadly that officially marks the death of this club.

Based on what exactly?

...well I watched an interview with Mourinho on SkySports few days ago and he said he had no contact/contracts signed with any club at this moment in time and is still jobless! He's still "looking at opportunities".


If he was coming to Utd then surely we would have already made some sort of deal and he would have given a different "in-direct" answer in his interview but he didn't...

He also said he is going to be in the Premier League. Which top 6 team needs him?

Yeah of course he hasn't signed a contract with us yet as LVG is still here and he is obviously still jobless right now. He has most likely signed a pre-contract but he can't sign any formal contract yet unless LVG has been sacked. He's also not going to go on air and say he has signed an informal pre-agreement with us because nothing is certain even with that.