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What do you think of Paul Joseph Watson?

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Original post by the bear
is he a pop star ? :holmes:


He's tweeted me on Twitter last year about a book recommendation and he liked a few of my tweets too,he's kinda badass and sexy at the same time.
Original post by queen-bee
He's tweeted me on Twitter last year about a book recommendation and he liked a few of my tweets too,he's kinda badass and sexy at the same time.


sounds like me :mmm:

are you feeling hungry bee ?

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here is something i rustled up just now :colondollar:
Original post by the bear
sounds like me :mmm:

are you feeling hungry bee ?

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here is something i rustled up just now :colondollar:


Looool!

Omg I love seafood and pasta. How did you know?!
Original post by queen-bee
Looool!

Omg I love seafood and pasta. How did you know?!


so.... don't you want to know how i got on at the jumble sale ? :beard:
Original post by the bear
so.... don't you want to know how i got on at the jumble sale ? :beard:


Is that what you were selling or did you buy it? Tell me
Original post by JIRAIYA-ERO-SENNIN
Except that isn't the case. Paul Joseph Watson has his own show and he doesn't have film critics or directors or other actors to speak of.So that's a false analogy.


Except the actors and directors are, in this case, analogous to the media platforms he uses, which are well-known to be non-credible sites usually full of conspiracy theorists and other such nutters. It's a massive red flag.

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Original post by queen-bee
Is that what you were selling or did you buy it? Tell me


i have moved to VMs ...

thanks OP :teehee:

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Original post by anarchism101
Except the actors and directors are, in this case, analogous to the media platforms he uses, which are well-known to be non-credible sites usually full of conspiracy theorists and other such nutters. It's a massive red flag.

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Well they're not analogous. Simon Jenkins writes for the Guardian, but Jenkins does not believe anything Owen Jones or Polly Toynbee says. Do you now see how absurd your analogy is? Maybe it hasn't occurred to you but media platforms often have a multiplicity of opinion. Since that is the case, it is more intelligent to judge a person for what he actually says and believes than merely to judge him on who he associates with. It is even more important in this case given that Paul Joseph Watson has his own show, researches his own material and has complete editorial independence: if you knew PJW you would know that. That's why you stance is so flawed.
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Original post by JIRAIYA-ERO-SENNIN
Well they're not analogous. Simon Jenkins writes for the Guardian, but Jenkins does not believe anything Owen Jones or Polly Toynbee says. Do you now see how absurd your analogy is? Maybe it hasn't occurred to you but media platforms often have a multiplicity of opinion. Since that is the case, it is more intelligent to judge a person for what he actually says and believes than merely to judge him on who he associates with. It is even more important in this case given that Paul Joseph Watson has his own show, researches his own material and has complete editorial independence: if you knew PJW you would know that. That's why you stance is so flawed.


It's not (for the most part) about shared opinions, but about the quality and standard of the material different mediums put out. The Economist expects a higher standard of analysis and argument from its writers than The Sun does, for example. Academic journals demand higher standards and more rigour than newspapers or magazines, and so on. Infowars, by contrast, does not have high standards - indeed, it is infamous precisely for its low standards.
Original post by anarchism101
It's not (for the most part) about shared opinions, but about the quality and standard of the material different mediums put out. The Economist expects a higher standard of analysis and argument from its writers than The Sun does, for example. Academic journals demand higher standards and more rigour than newspapers or magazines, and so on. Infowars, by contrast, does not have high standards - indeed, it is infamous precisely for its low standards.


You assumed he was a 'nutter' because of his associations, that quite obviously because of his views rather than the quality of his journalism, as that word would imply. My original statement which I restate is: you should watch Paul Joseph Watson, not just assume things about him because of his associations. Actually becoming acquainted with his views and judging him on those is a lot more intelligent than simply doing a google search resulting in Inforwars and Prison planet and supposed Neo-Nazi sites. You were asked about your opinion on Paul Joseph Watson, you were not asked about your opinion of Infowars.
Paul Joseph Watson comes across as having accumulated his views after having been through the trendy student period of adopting everything Socialist and Utopian and realising how unrealistic they really are.

Peter Hitchens and Melanie Phillips followed the same path and then had their epiphany once they'd actually lived in the real world as adults.

Paul's interestingly refreshing to watch and listen to. Plus he's damn sexy with it.
he's one of the good guys
Why doesn't he keep moving his head backwards and forwards ever so slightly when he's talking lol
Wonderful man.
All he does is complain about everything, then calls anyone left wing "moaners" and "hypocrites":redface: he also sits so close to his camera it feels as though I can smell his breath:biggrin:
Sounds like an actor
get so fed up of this nonsense I have followed the following on youtube for some time.

Stefan Molyneux
Sargon of Akkad
Paul Joseph Watson
Naked ape
Thunderfoot
laci Green
jaclynglenn
Milo Yonopolis
Amazing Atheist

I believe this mostly covers widely opposing opinions on recent politics. At different times I have heard nearly all these characters referred to as Nazi's by some source.

I believe it is absurd to call any of them Nazi's and actually listen to what they have to say and how they act rather than listening to what media says. I normally like to listen to commentators on both sides of a debate/issue as this challenges assumptions and leads me to be able to critically asses ideas for myself.

All are controversial characters who I could have criticism of but saying they are Nazi's just because the media said so is absurd.

with Regards to the guy in question Paul Joseph Watson actually he speaks a lot of sense and backs up a lot of his points with statistics and evidence rather then verbal diarrhea identity politics and politically correct nonsense. I can't say I agree with everything he says but I have never heard him say anything I would identify with Nazism or racism and he does speak a lot of sense. If you can actually find some sources eg videos where he says something particularly bad please post up for me to review you might change my mind. I doubt it but I have not watched all of anyones videos so maybe their is something in the buried but if so find it and show it rather then assuming them Nazi because some lying left wing propaganda nonsense says so.

anyway Put my generic opinion for the others below because we will bring them up at some point.

Stefan
speaks quite a bit of sense and explains things well but can be over sensationalist and exaggerate things. does flirt with some very controversial ideas such as Racial IQ, I actually disagree with him on Racial IQ. some might say he is arguably racist in that way? well that is certainly debatable but I think it destroys intellectual advancement and the discussion, i certainly would not put him in the Nazi category.
I disagree with his ideas in these areas because they don't take into account external factors and their are far too many individuals who are several standard deviations away from the purported mean of their group. To such an extent that his position just cannot be rationally supported. I think that is an appropriate reply for when he goes into that area rather then calling him a racist Nazi yeah that is a waste of time.

Sargon of Akkad
I actually really like this guys channel I think he speaks a lot of sense is very good for exposing the stupidity of the far left and this politically correct SJW nonsense. He has shown in a number of videos that he has a weak understanding of economics and has annoyed me with his comments on Autism and also his comments on maths. However for the most part he speaks a lot of sense and nothing to suggest he is racist or sexist. In almost every case when he says something controversial he backs up his points well.

Naked Ape
This guy's videos and comments have sometimes flirted with anti semeticism and he takes an aggressive anti pc anti SJW tone. Been of Jewish descent I don't like how when he points out bad apples specifically been Jewish in the way he does. Having said that I still think his content does offer critical view points worth listening to. Obviously not the stuff that is racist etc.

Thunderfoot
I like the science and the SJW bashing I do think his smug arrogance towards Brexit and Trump shows Ignorance and one sided thinking. He tends to follow what is best for Science only but fails to observe some controversial statistics and think long term about the affects that will likely have on is beloved science. Lets just religion is not too tolerant of science.

Laci Green
Speaks a lot of nonsense, her channel is mostly verbal Diarrhea, nice to look at displays manifest ignorance on topics she talks about. EG one video that stood out to me was when she tried to make a video on consent and BDSM. As a sexual submissive who has been in the scene without a lot of success but enough to understand some basic things, I understand how wildly she has got things wrong. such as pretending to be a dominant whilst wearing a submissive collar.
I think mostly I just follow her channel so I know when she has been taken out of context or mis represented, which does sometimes happen, However if your hoping for intellectual advancement watching her channel, your unlikely to get it unless your 10 which might be the age demographic she is targeting.

jaclynglenn
tough one I agree with a lot of what she says but also disagree passionately with a lot of what she says too. Her recent video mocking a trump supported showed complete arrogance brainwashing and ignorance of the entire issue. Basically having taken hood line and sinker the entire media narrative without having delved deeper. I have no issue with her disagreeing with my view points. However I just think her simplistic view of the other side is triggering.

Milo Yonopolis
despite the negative press attitude towards this guy when I listen to what he says he often speaks a lot of sense. I actually respect and like this guy. He does sometimes go to far but he likes to troll. Which I get sometimes the left wing gets so silly you just want to wind them up. Its why i Like Nigel Farage so much, the guy speaks a lot of sense but his trolling of the left wing is comic gold, and I just don't think i could match it no matter how hard I tried. Milo is following in those foot steps but with his own character on it. Mostly a good guy.

Amazing Atheist
This I might actually differ from many of my alt right compatriot's with regards to this guy. one of his videos was so bad, so misleading and disturbing that it actually does make the SJW response appear justified. This particular video was truly bordering on the lines of rape apologist.
Whilst I can't find much else as significant as this particular video, the video alone was so shockingly bad I gave up defending him or supporting his channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMAKkUO-HnA
I can't and won't even try to defend this video. It disgusted me and caused me to lose all respect for the guy.

My point in showing this is if you can actually show something substantial for Youtube or internet personalities like shown here, Then I can change my mind on these characters. However if your going to show me a newspaper article or media that claims them to be racist then save it, I have no trust for the media and wont listen I need actual evidence.
Reply 37
He's a blogger, a noisy one with 'opinions' . He's an opposing force to the horrid state of bias liberal media, but in reality he's a substandard writer who just swears a lot with his own bias. Not a real alternative to the establishment. If you are really looking for truth you have to do your own digging , and multiple news sources. But it's time consuming and not a lot of people (including myself) have the time. We just have wait until the 2nd coming of Jesus appears and washes all the sin away. If you are interested in a good pro-free speech lectures check out Christopher Hitchins and the Joe Rogan interview with Jordan Peterson. They make Watson seem like a frothing giblet.
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Reply 38
probably one of the most reasonable man powerful enough to show me the hypocrisy of left with their SJW nonsense
Reply 39
probably one of the most reasonable man powerful enough to show me the hypocrisy of left with their SJW nonsense. so he is pretty much badass

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