Why Are Modern "men" White Knights?

Lol, one of them is a professional model.

yes, men are sexual subjects, and women (at least the submissive, non-assertive and generally the ones living in this time and place) are sexual objects. I don't mean objects as in "non-human", I mean they want men to treat them as objects in the sense of subject/object - do most women want men to come to them? or do they generally want to go up to men? exactly. if "sexual object" is offensive, then "sexual subject" is too, but just because nobody uses that word, it doesn't mean they don't apply it to the male gender! men who pursue women = subjects.

misogyny has nothing to do with ^that. that's not degrading women. that's treating them as equals in status but treating them "differently".

yes because most men aren't gay.

...I'm sorry but you're quoting me without the context behind it - I don't even remember what I've said so at least quote the whole thing so I can describe the meaning behind it

You're completely missing the point. The idea of objectification in this sense is that you see them only as an object of sexual desire. In your world, there is no room for higher thinking where you appreciate that you could simply talk to someone without immediately wanting to bone them. At first I thought it was misogyny, but now I'm thinking it's even more concerning. The only way you justify it being acceptable to have male friends is that you aren't gay. You only talk to guys because you don't want to have sex with them, so they have no other purpose to distract you?

Ignorance is not a valid way to defend your contradictions.

You are one messed up human my friend.

I see a lot of guys with female friends and I know that they are too weak to make a move. If they had balls they would and if she rejected him, they'd move on.

I know because when I was young I too used to be a beta pussy.

Today there isn't a female friend I have who I don't occasionally dump my cum into.

And I will never marry any of them.

Even ugly or average girls get too many WKs and they get arrogant.

These beta males then complain about "friendzone"

You do realise that without a marital partner, you will most likely die lonely? Cum or no cum! Good for you.

butthurt

My brother back before his partner died 12 years ago was always one of the "lads" very popular with the women even offered modelling contracts, he had the "Robbie Williams grin" and was a major charmer.

He was so bad he used to meet girls in a club just for somewhere to spend the night or date girls for a few days who's parents/relatives owned cafes and take aways to eat free for a few days, even remember girls one step away from being stalkers with him such as one who when he made an excuse about not spending the weekend with her and saying he was coming to see his parents she found out our names, phone numbers, address etc and rang to ask if he was there yet as she was missing him already put it this way, this was around 1997 when there was no social media, pcs were mostly at colleges/university and at best it was dial up and she still found out everything about us.

He really got into girls heads.

When he moved back near me I remember he started a college course, all but 2 girls on the course fancied him and the 2 that "didnt" were in relationships but still flirted with him.

Even remember his New Deal advisor who was the same age as him sit next to him on her hen night and lift her top to show her bra and make him squeeze them (she was at least DD cup!) she was very flirty.

Obviously a lot of his jobs were like working in a bank or door to door salesmen as he was a charmer, he told me so often he was invited into lonely housewives homes for a "glass of wine" but never told me if he took it further.

I'm confused as to how this is of any relevance to the thread?

I see a lot of guys with female friends and I know that they are too weak to make a move. If they had balls they would and if she rejected him, they'd move on.

I know because when I was young I too used to be a beta pussy.

Today there isn't a female friend I have who I don't occasionally dump my cum into.

And I will never marry any of them.

POTY

I've actually already answered this
yes - if there is no sexual attraction (via looks) then why not?
but guys are SOMEWHAT sexually attracted to most girls.

Holy **** are you mad, do you honestly think that, you are sexually attracted to most girls?

Even with people I find aesthetically attractive, I am unlikely to find them sexually attractive.

well obviously - you haven't even mentioned whether you like their personality which is obviously important to you

Well yeah they're my friends, but in the same way I can pretty easily tell if a guy is good looking and be friends with them but I don't want to **** them.

lol wow, you're reaching low on that one...
"I'm heterosexual and for some reason I don't want to **** good looking guys - it's just like my situation with girls!"

Then you lack comprehension, people were talking about attitudes of males going for women I mentioned my brother who got into womens heads and was basically a Quagmire just wanting one night stands instead of being sensitve.

Meh. No other reason to have female friends. Non-cucks get it.