Going clubbing in your 30's?

How about you make a judgement call and STFU

You're just calling her "naive" because you're butthurt not all younger women like older guys. OMG, someone in the age group I like doesnt like guys my age, they must be wrong! 11!

Deal with it.

You sound like the kind of socially awkward guy in his 30s who pesters younger women after they clearly say no (judging by your moaning about "the media" when in reality some guys are just creeps, and trying to dismiss her opinion). Then gets thrown out by the bouncers.

from my experience students love cheesy music and £1 drinks..

It's creepty to you as you are still naive and still think of yourselves as between kid and adult where to the guys (and women do this to young men too) They see a girl who at that age is more likely to experience the world so wants to have fun, no worries about setting down yet, isn't showing signs of age, has more energy.

Instead of your brain flicking to danger make an actual judgement call and assume maybe being older they could be more mature, more stable in life and such.

Men are attracted to femininity hence the younger women more likely to show it over the ones who are swamped with a career or at least a stressful job, its only creepy as you are used to the media telling you women are victims and men predators.

I disagree, most of the time it is very creepy.

My friends and I had our first night out a couple of months ago. Walking from our first bar to the next we were stopped by some guys who were old enough to be our fathers. They were pushy and demanded to know where we were going, and we found some polite way to tell them to **** off. The next place I had problems getting into as the machine wasn't accepting my ID when my friends were already in. Another group of men, younger this time but still definitely at least ten years older than me started closing in, asking me where I was going. Much more terrifying when you're alone.

We were 18, it was our first time, we only wanted to enjoy ourselves and experience the city nightlife. But we were approached several times that night when we clearly were not soliciting anything, and many of those who approached took a long time to back off. It was predatory.

People that claim harassment by older men doesn't happen, or that it's harmless, either aren't experiencing it, noticing it, or linking it to a much wider problem.

I disagree, most of the time it is very creepy.

My friends and I had our first night out a couple of months ago. Walking from our first bar to the next we were stopped by some guys who were old enough to be our fathers. They were pushy and demanded to know where we were going, and we found some polite way to tell them to **** off. The next place I had problems getting into as the machine wasn't accepting my ID when my friends were already in. Another group of men, younger this time but still definitely at least ten years older than me started closing in, asking me where I was going. Much more terrifying when you're alone.

We were 18, it was our first time, we only wanted to enjoy ourselves and experience the city nightlife. But we were approached several times that night when we clearly were not soliciting anything, and many of those who approached took a long time to back off. It was predatory.

People that claim harassment by older men doesn't happen, or that it's harmless, either aren't experiencing it, noticing it, or linking it to a much wider problem.

tbh a lot of the moaning ITT is older guys being defensive

I should add - don't take this as a discouragement from going clubbing at an older age. Just... stick to your age group.

I'm a 30 year old guy who still goes clubbing, tbh I find girls your age more receptive than girls my age. Then again I don't look my age. Yesterday my new flatmate asked me if I'm a student. Your post pisses me off tbh, why am i automatically creepy if I approach girls your age? What about girls your age that come onto me, what does it make them?

Back to my first question, why is it creepy for me to desire a female of prime reproductive age rather than a 30 year old woman who's getting crows feet and showing signs of aging?

why is it creepy for me to desire a female of prime reproductive age

I'll be clubbing in my 30s. Actually, up to whatever age my mind and body can handle it. Why does clubbing have to be limited to young people? If you enjoy something why should you let age stop you?

By (a) coming on to them or (b) being receptive when they come on to you, you are being expolitative.

I disagree, most of the time it is very creepy.

My friends and I had our first night out a couple of months ago. Walking from our first bar to the next we were stopped by some guys who were old enough to be our fathers. They were pushy and demanded to know where we were going, and we found some polite way to tell them to **** off. The next place I had problems getting into as the machine wasn't accepting my ID when my friends were already in. Another group of men, younger this time but still definitely at least ten years older than me started closing in, asking me where I was going. Much more terrifying when you're alone.

We were 18, it was our first time, we only wanted to enjoy ourselves and experience the city nightlife. But we were approached several times that night when we clearly were not soliciting anything, and many of those who approached took a long time to back off. It was predatory.

People that claim harassment by older men doesn't happen, or that it's harmless, either aren't experiencing it, noticing it, or linking it to a much wider problem.

I can see myself doing so as well, as long as money and time permits! I have a kid sister who I've told I'll take her clubbing when she is 18 and I am 31 - hopefully she doesn't find me too uncool by then, lol