The EU Out Campaign really amounts to Gove, Duncan-Smith and Norfolk

Isn't that George Galloway number 4?

http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/anthony-hilton-stay-or-go-the-lack-of-solid-facts-means-it-s-all-a-leap-of-faith-a3189151.html is the source

I never said you made up that there was a quote. I'm aware of it being in the news, I simply believe the author is frankly lying about his claim that Murdoch apparently said that to him one time. It's way too convenient for the remain camp.

I never said you made up that there was a quote. I'm aware of it being in the news, I simply believe the author is frankly lying about his claim that Murdoch apparently said that to him one time. It's way too convenient for the remain camp.

I think that's unlikely - Hilton and the Standard would be too worried about Murdoch's litigators. It's much more likely that it's true.

Interesting map from YouGov today showing where the Out votes are concentrated geographically.



It would appear that so far the likes of Michael Gove, Ian Duncan-Smith and other assorted right wing headbangers and morons (I'll raise you a Farage for your Hannan) have only succeeded in persuading E. Anglia and Essex that Leaving is the right way to go.

What a surprise.

I feel really bloody annoyed that we are going to have to put up with another two months of their blather for absolutely no benefit to anyone except a few Tory and UKIP battered egos, serving a definitely minority opinion. Even then they won't give up of course.

I assume this will soon become another Neverendum, like the one in Scotland. It shouldn't even be a national referendum - weak leadership by the Tories.

They are densely populated areas (bar London), no? So they have targetted densely populated constituencies - which is what happens in every "election"...

The lighter shades seems to me more sparsely populated

And yet Murdoch (not known for letting things pass without legal action) has let it enter the public domain and stay there for 2 months - that doesn't seem likely if it is a lie.

East Anglia is a rural area made up of small towns and villages lol

I'm no lawyer but I'm sure there's more to suing for libel than one single quote being false. It's not a bar to judge if it's true. David Cameron didn't sue over pig-gate, that doesn't stop it being highly dubious and most likely false.

okey doke.

So do you think Murdoch is anti-EU because he thinks that the people of UK would be better of outside it - or because it serves his own purposes better?

Actually I've hardly heard from Farage recently, has he gone off in a sulk since he got the royal order of the boot on being the official campaign?

Gove, Boris, Duncan Smith - they all play the same basic game, introducing immigration into the line of patter and also lying every five minutes about the size of the UK contribution, etc. It's charmless, degrading stuff.

It isn't half the country - it's probably about a third, if that. I think the Out vote is currently being over polled and the final result will be at least 60:40 and possibly 70:30 in favour of In.

It doesn't have to be because he's a bond villain who wants to control the government like puppets.

Where do you pull those forecasts from? It is a sunny day here, but I am guessing the sun isn't shining there...

You are talking *******$ anyway. And to prove it, I'll offer you a bet that the leave vote exceeds 30%.

Any amount you like. Shall we say a couple of hundred quid? PM me if you are prepared to put your money where your posting mouth is.

You won't bet. Not even on 40% I reckon...

It isn't half the country - it's probably about a third, if that. I think the Out vote is currently being over polled and the final result will be at least 60:40 and possibly 70:30 in favour of In.

Interesting map from YouGov today showing where the Out votes are concentrated geographically.



It would appear that so far the likes of Michael Gove, Ian Duncan-Smith and other assorted right wing headbangers and morons (I'll raise you a Farage for your Hannan) have only succeeded in persuading E. Anglia and Essex that Leaving is the right way to go.

What a surprise.

I feel really bloody annoyed that we are going to have to put up with another two months of their blather for absolutely no benefit to anyone except a few Tory and UKIP battered egos, serving a definitely minority opinion. Even then they won't give up of course.

I assume this will soon become another Neverendum, like the one in Scotland. It shouldn't even be a national referendum - weak leadership by the Tories.

You've clearly never ventured too far from your ivory tower. East Anglia has a population of 6 million, considerably more than Scotland, and is 4 times more densely populated than it too. It has large towns and cities like Ipswich, Norwich, Colchester, Chelmsford, Luton, Southend and Bedford.
To dismiss it as a rural backwater that should be ignored is highly insulting but thoroughly expected of the sneering, condescending left.
I'm not even going to get started on the utter ridiculousness of your racism claim.

East Anglia (I take as the basis for comparison the evil EU regional designation East of England), has the smallest conurbations of any region.