Do you believe in God or not?

The same way you can see your parents love you by their actions I can see that God is real through miracles and unexplainable things.

Well maybe but I would say he/she has no purpose, if everything evolved then why does he need to be there in the first place? You are free to believe in what you like but I meant that evolution reinforces my lack of belief in God.

I'm not Christian but... they don't believe the Earth was created 6000 years ago.

Depends on the kind of Christian. Most of them don't, but you wouldn't be hard-pressed to find incredibly pseudoscientific views about the age of the Earth in some of the least educated parts of the Deep South.

No, don't be moving the goalposts now. Your initial comment was that there are plenty of things for which there is NO evidence, not that there are things most of us haven't seen which we know to be true. There IS evidence for the Earth going round the sun which comes from the known natural laws.

While you may not have read the scientific evidence, it's still there, that's the point. If you wanted to you could go and read the proofs for all of these things and do the necessary experiments in the lab. So you not having bothered to read the evidence for yourself doesn't mean it isn't there.

There is, however, not an iota of scientific or empirical evidence for a god's existence.

Not defeated. Under the laws of physics the causation argument applies: everything in the universe had a cause and hence the universe did too. If God is outside time and space (where physics works) then He doesn't need a creator.

Secondly, I have no idea why you brought religion into it when you can believe in a God without one, hence irrelevant. I'm not Christian but... they don't believe the Earth was created 6000 years ago.

You're right there is actual proof of these things. However, discoveries are being mad everyday and until you can show me the proof that God is not real I will continue as I do.

Unless you have tangible evidence that God is not real, Jesus never died on the cross, Moses never freed the children of Israel etc. I would't dare try to rule out Gods existence.

Unless you have tangible evidence that God is not real, Jesus never died on the cross, Moses never freed the children of Israel etc. I would't dare try to rule out Gods existence.

From what I read, the bible indicates the human race is 6000 years old (still crazy I know), but nothing about the Earth.

See? Condition after condition. "If"s all over the place. "If that is true, and if that is true, it follows that that is true if base it on that". Sorry for not being convinced after this array of fallacies.

Are you being serious now? The vast majority of God-believers "belong" in a religion - to argue that this becomes irrelevant because of the random person believing in a deity but not being part of a religion is, frankly, nonsensical.
That would imply that the Bible is wrong, so yeah - everything comes back to my original argument.

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well maybe but that is a different concept. You could say both are superstitions love may be a superstition (I am willing to accept that). But are you willing to suspect that God maybe a superstition?. I suspect not.

they don't believe the Earth was created 6000 years ago.

I never get soft. Never.

Can't you deduce that from the emoji?

On the advice of counsel, I would like to exercise my Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination.

You don't have a fax machine?!

That's not how the burden of proof works, it's up to the person making the extraordinary claim to provide the evidence, not up to sceptics to disprove it.

So people who believe in God don't sin?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism#Interpretations_of_Genesis

Enjoy the slow death of your grey matter.

You both just defeated your points. Religious people decline to accept that Earth was created without a "Creator". If Earth necessarily needed a creator, what makes you think God does not have s creator himself - and so on?

Also, do people actually think that Earth was created 6000 years ago, and God spoke words which materialised? Doesn't sound like someone's imagination at all

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Why are these things proof of the existence and divinity of the Christian god, specifically? Not everyone who died on a cross is a god, you know. It was a standard punishment at that time in that part of the world.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism#Interpretations_of_Genesis

Enjoy the slow death of your grey matter.

But God isn't a superstition.

If you're so sure that God is not real explain how/ who creates gravity.

“Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist.” - Stephen Hawkin

Tell me where it says that.