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Does right wing media make up lies about Muslim migrants, or...?

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All sides lie or exaggerate. It's what they do.
They alwqays word it in su a way... So if a muslim teacher assaults a schoolgirlk every headline is gonna be saying "Woman assaulted by muslim teacher!!!" But if white guys does it the headlines will be likle "girl alleged assault against her teacher" and then have pages about how wveryone loved him.
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Original post by SophieBarlow87
They alwqays word it in su a way... So if a muslim teacher assaults a schoolgirlk every headline is gonna be saying "Woman assaulted by muslim teacher!!!" But if white guys does it the headlines will be likle "girl alleged assault against her teacher" and then have pages about how wveryone loved him.


I don't actually think they do this.
Original post by SophieBarlow87
They alwqays word it in su a way... So if a muslim teacher assaults a schoolgirlk every headline is gonna be saying "Woman assaulted by muslim teacher!!!" But if white guys does it the headlines will be likle "girl alleged assault against her teacher" and then have pages about how wveryone loved him.


So Muslims - as in the followers of the religion that is Islam - cannot be white, despite the fact that there are actually loads of white Muslims lol. According to you, Muslims are all brown people.

I quite enjoy seeing social justice warriors inadvertently expose their own prejudices. This stupid Muslims versus white people thing is a common one.
Reply 64
Original post by KingBradly
Does right wing media make up lies about Muslim migrants, or are they the only ones reporting certain stories that show them in a bad light?

Here are a number of stories that only seem to have been reported by right-wing sources:

Gang of migrants demanding respect smash way into Paris school:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Gang+of+migrants+demanding+%E2%80%98respect%E2%80%99+smash+way+into+Paris+school+and+refuse+to+leave&oq=Gang+of+migrants+demanding+%E2%80%98respect%E2%80%99+smash+way+into+Paris+school+and+refuse+to+leave&aqs=chrome..69i57.832j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=Gang+of+migrants+Paris+school+refuse+to+leave

Arabic speaker slashes French soldier in face:

https://www.google.com/search?q=%27Arabic+speaker%27+slashes+french+soldier+in+face&oq=%27Arabic+speaker%27+slashes+french+soldier+in+face&aqs=chrome..69i57.422j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Migrant told victim "German women are just for sex":

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22german+women+are+just+for+sex%22&biw=1280&bih=729&tbm=nws&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiS2Or5zKzMAhXmBZoKHVghDdYQ_AUICCgC&dpr=2

Three migrants stone two transgender women in German street:

https://www.google.com/search?q=migrants+stone+two+women+in+street&oq=migrants+stone+two+women+in+street&aqs=chrome..69i57.5273j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#

18 year old Kent girl alleges migrants gang raped her for three hours:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/04/13/18-year-old-kent-girl-accused-six-migrants-gang-rape-foreigners-dosshouse/



If you click on the links to the Google searches, you'll find close to solely right-wing sources reporting the stories. Do you believe this is all propaganda?

I would say it is because the mainstream media cover up stories because of political corectnes.

The best known are the Cologne incidents. The first who reported about the incident right after the attacks were german right-wing media and forums. They spreaded informations so that the german mainstream media were forced to published after 4 days of ignoring.

Similar happened in Sweden where the sexual assaults on Stockholm summer festival were revelaed by Avpixlat (an alternative source) and even interciwed the victims.

In my opinion the best news outlet is Breitbart since every controversial article they report they put sources from where they got it.
Original post by MrsSheldonCooper
Holoucaust and WW2 were there at the same time.

Duh


Its *Holocaust. . . . . . .dear oh dear.....
Also, I am well aware of that having studied History.
That was not the point of my statement.
You have chosen to bring up the topic of the Holocaust yourself, without justifying your reason but by just stating the obvious.
Original post by Tyreke
Stop twisting her words. She didn't say it would be better if only women came.

She's highlighting the fact that about 80% of these supposed 'refugees' all appear to be of fighting age men, wearing reasonable clothing, with shiny new phones.

Also, if they are all fleeing war, please inform me which countries in the Middle East are currently at war other than Syria and possibly Libya?



Actually she did.......awks...




Also, you are practically going against yourself.
Most of the migrants are from Syria soooooooooo........
Original post by Tyreke
Evidence. Or are all your arguements based on false claims?


I am a bit baffled as to why you are asking for evidence.
IF you have been watching the news recently, you would know what an absurd question that was...
but as I don't know whether you keep up to date with topics you think you can argue about, here are a few links (most recent):

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/8CF7/production/_88578063_chart_top10_origins_of_asylum_seekers_2015.jpg

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/10227/production/_88578066_asylum_applications_eu_2015_624.png

If you want to be up to date with current affairs, I recommend:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news

Please read up on your facts before falsely claiming that all my arguments are based on false claims.
urgh
Oh, and did you just realise that the partner you attempted to back did not say what you think she did.
Original post by KimKallstrom
So Muslims - as in the followers of the religion that is Islam - cannot be white, despite the fact that there are actually loads of white Muslims lol. According to you, Muslims are all brown people.

I quite enjoy seeing social justice warriors inadvertently expose their own prejudices. This stupid Muslims versus white people thing is a common one.


You have a fair point, sort of. There's a lot of discussion about what makes a person white, obviously there is the fact of having white skin, but asian people can have white skin, but they aren't generally referred to as being white. I am however sure that you knew what i meant.

This whole exposing "sjws" for their prejudices is such a weird thing. I have never once said that i am the queen of being unbiased- i believe that most people have preconceptions in their head, because that is the way we are socialised. The only thing i claim to be is open to discussion, and concious of my own bias.
why the hell are pakistanis coming to this country acting like they are refugees scamming our british systems, their country aint even at a war. i hate these scroungers who will infest british properties with 10 of them working different shift patterns at the expense of a young hardworking british family looking to get on in life
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Leftist sources play it down, right wing sources play it up. Down to the individual to find the middle ground.

But for many on the right, one theft, one rape, one murder is one too many. Which you can't really argue with.

What obligation do we have to these savages? Would their home nations extend such friendship and aid to Europeans, if we were in a crisis? I think not.
It's not exclusively right wing to not like Muslims is it?
Original post by neal95
why the hell are pakistanis coming to this country acting like they are refugees scamming our british systems, their country aint even at a war. i hate these scroungers who will infest british properties with 10 of them working different shift patterns at the expense of a young hardworking british family looking to get on in life


What do you think of the welfare reform act in 2012? It apparently made hundreds of thousands if not over a million people homeless, including coloured migrants, and including white English
Nick Clegg said the reform wouldn't cause homelessness yet right after he swore it like 300% of England has become homeless lol massive face palm init?
Is it political racism backfiring or not racism at all, dunno
Original post by SophieBarlow87
You have a fair point, sort of. There's a lot of discussion about what makes a person white, obviously there is the fact of having white skin, but asian people can have white skin, but they aren't generally referred to as being white. I am however sure that you knew what i meant.

This whole exposing "sjws" for their prejudices is such a weird thing. I have never once said that i am the queen of being unbiased- i believe that most people have preconceptions in their head, because that is the way we are socialised. The only thing i claim to be is open to discussion, and concious of my own bias.


The problem is that extremes are taking over rational, biased discussions. College campuses are stifling open discussion; corporations are too scared to be associated with individuals who make comments that don't fit the 'norm' and the 'establishment' simply dismiss criticism as bigotry. Far too many SJWs fit into this category where rather than balancing the odds, they simply shift it to another extreme. We see this with feminism, for example. A noble movement that initially pushed for equality is now represented primarily by ignorant and regressive individuals who fail to use evidence to back their statements (see the debate on the pay gap). This is equally idiotic on the Right, where individuals such as Trump make statements, say, about trade or immigration without understanding the statistics. Acting as a voice for the minority is one thing; but imposing such voices on others is idiotic.

So, you're right in that discussion and listening to other people is necessary but on both ends of the political spectrum we are facing bigots who simply refuse to listen to other people, let alone agree with them.
Original post by Aceadria
The problem is that extremes are taking over rational, biased discussions. College campuses are stifling open discussion; corporations are too scared to be associated with individuals who make comments that don't fit the 'norm' and the 'establishment' simply dismiss criticism as bigotry. Far too many SJWs fit into this category where rather than balancing the odds, they simply shift it to another extreme. We see this with feminism, for example. A noble movement that initially pushed for equality is now represented primarily by ignorant and regressive individuals who fail to use evidence to back their statements (see the debate on the pay gap). This is equally idiotic on the Right, where individuals such as Trump make statements, say, about trade or immigration without understanding the statistics. Acting as a voice for the minority is one thing; but imposing such voices on others is idiotic.

So, you're right in that discussion and listening to other people is necessary but on both ends of the political spectrum we are facing bigots who simply refuse to listen to other people, let alone agree with them.


Thats always been true - perhaps slightly more uneducated people have a voice due to the internet which is both good and bad. Also, college campuses and the like are under no obligation to let people have a platform to say whatever. Freedom of speech means you have the right to say something, not that anyone has to tolerate it. I read a lot of debates on the pay gap and quite frankly i consider most people arguing that it doesnt exist to be more dictatorial and uneducated than those saying it does exist, generalising obviously.
The difference between feminists who are "ignorant and regressive" as you put it, and the likes of donald trump is that men are under no threat of being deported, or having their benefits stripped or being denied access to work whereas muslim immigrants are.
I'm not sure as Sweden is now the rape capital of (Western) Europe. I don't want to assume it's just due to immigration. It's possible more rape victims come forward.
Original post by SophieBarlow87
Thats always been true - perhaps slightly more uneducated people have a voice due to the internet which is both good and bad. Also, college campuses and the like are under no obligation to let people have a platform to say whatever. Freedom of speech means you have the right to say something, not that anyone has to tolerate it. I read a lot of debates on the pay gap and quite frankly i consider most people arguing that it doesnt exist to be more dictatorial and uneducated than those saying it does exist, generalising obviously.


It is not for a central authority to regulate what can and cannot be said. That sounds very much like censorship and goes against the morality of education (present a diversity of views to push independent thinking; not push a certain agenda).

Original post by SophieBarlow87
The difference between feminists who are "ignorant and regressive" as you put it, and the likes of donald trump is that men are under no threat of being deported, or having their benefits stripped or being denied access to work whereas muslim immigrants are.


This statement makes no sense. Please, elaborate.
Original post by MrsSheldonCooper
PEGIDA have had so much support since the migrant crisis so reporting these events just adds fuel to the fire.

I've never understood some of the logic of some migrants- They make a big fuss about how they escaped a war but then they come here and show no respect to Western culture.


Western Culture is disrespectful itself that's why. Nudism?! Seriously?
Original post by Ladymusiclover
I'm not sure as Sweden is now the rape capital of (Western) Europe. I don't want to assume it's just due to immigration. It's possible more rape victims come forward.


Thankfully we'll never know, because we are wisely not allowed to talk about it :smile:

Self censorship is a mild but potentially distorting form of censorship.
While Sweden is among the leaders in free speech and has the oldest history of free speech guarantees of any nation, it runs into problems when political correctness begins to define certain topics as off limits due the perception that they are "hate speech." The problem with most regulations of "hate speech" is that they fail to differentiate between hate-filled speech and speech that one simply does not want to hear. To prohibit open discussions of certain sensitive issues by naming that discussion hate speech is certainly a form of censored speech.

The rating agency Freedom House, while rating Sweden very high in all categories, makes this clear in its assessment of this issue: [M]ost of the mainstream media view criticism of immigration and Islam as a form of hate speech. In December, the tabloid Aftonbladet launched a campaign against nationalist blogs in order to test the limits of the hate speech law. It also directly called for a government intervention to shut down a number of the right-wing blogs. Freedom of the Press


https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/688999781193117696?lang=en-gb
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Original post by SophieBarlow87
They alwqays word it in su a way... So if a muslim teacher assaults a schoolgirlk every headline is gonna be saying "Woman assaulted by muslim teacher!!!" But if white guys does it the headlines will be likle "girl alleged assault against her teacher" and then have pages about how wveryone loved him.


So true.
Plus everything is just because of the stupid ISIS terrorist group who call themselves Muslim who force Muslim CHILDREN to join them or they would just kill them. That is sad. Then they kill them in the end. Wow I just hate ISIS and I'm Muslim. But us Muslim's know that they aren't Muslims lol.

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