Being Gay is a choice

Dude, read my reply then the OP.

Is anything a choice?
Is th fact that you like/dislike football a choice?
Is the fact that you like/dislike a certain food a choice?
Is the fact that you liked/disliked maths at school a choice?
Are any of these choices? Can you control them/ have more control over some choices than others?
I'll explain. Do we (humans) do things because we consciously have controlled our brains to want to do something, or is it the other way round, does something in our brain - in a way a pre determine our lives - do we have control over anything and just think that we do? I'm not sure about this but when people have brain injuries, they can turn into completely different people suggesting that it is the latter.
I've never heard of a brain injury induceing gayness but I wouldn't rule it out.
We may believe we are in control of our lives and personality, but really this could just be out brain doing it and we think we're in control when really we may not be. Who knows.

cant believe this debate still going on ..lol

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THIS!!!

Plus there's a lot of anecdotal evidence out there! I personally am not even a little bit ashamed about liking women, but it definitely wasn't a conscious choice.

mmm but there is a split in the LGBT community where one side think its a choice and the other dont. Also, is a transgender gay, thats in their community.

Im not trying to prove you wrong here but just know more of peoples opinions and if so change mine.

I don't think people are naturally born homosexual, i think its a choice, you can agree or disagree.

Of course it's a choice! You don't feel attracted to men when you pop out, now do you? Ot's a choice, science says so, and people just say no it isn't to not "offend" homosexuals.

Why would anyone choose to be gay instead of straight?

I don't mean that in a derogatory way, I mean in terms of choosing to accept the hassle that can often come with it.

The typical arguments to this very plausable point debunked:
1) "Why would gays choose to be gay then, because it's easier to heterosexual"
Answer: A choice made at a young age is clearly not one that takes all factors into consideration. You were unable to see into the future, and see the potential hate you may receive for being homosexual. All you had, at the time you made the choice, was a bunch of people from each gender to look at, and a decision to make. Gay people could still change sexuality, since I'm sure most people would change sexuality if it stopped them "getting bullied and abused" all their lives. Comparing the looks of genders when young and then deciding and learning which you prefer is still a choice.
+ Never heard of an incident of any abuse towards a gay person, in a way that exceeds just a standard insult. I.e fat people are called fat, gay people are called gay. The minority characteristic will always be mentioned.
2) "Okay so when did you choose to be straight?"
Answer: In order for a gender to be preferred, there does not need to exist a single moment in time in which you decided that. Most opinions/ views grow over time, similarly to the hair style you have or the gender you fancy. That's the only explanation for people "suddenly" becoming bisexual, unless they're all lying too. For straight people, it's the same as for gay people, in the sense that they compare the attractiveness of genders over time, to eventually (or never) reach a conclusion, but always have a preference.
3) "But these studies show a correlation between *insert some genetic thing* and homosexuality"
Answer: A survey/ dna test of 250 people isn't proof of causation, it's hardly proof of correlation.
4) "I don't remember choosing to be gay consciously"
Answer: And I don't remember what I had for dinner on the 27th of May 2006, doesn't mean I didn't have dinner that evening.

Please feel free to give me more, I'm still waiting for one to be inarguable, as it would be lovely to learn and improve my views. However there seems to be nothing to improve to as it stands.

*Waits for 1 specific thing I said to be argued and the rest ignored*

Of course it's a choice! You don't feel attracted to men when you pop out, now do you? Ot's a choice, science says so, and people just say no it isn't to not "offend" homosexuals.

There's not such a thing as a "subconscious" choice.

i agree that it is a choice.
Reason is being..why are people also bisexual?
i thought it was one or the other, how could it be both?

Of course it's a choice! You don't feel attracted to men when you pop out, now do you? Ot's a choice, science says so, and people just say no it isn't to not "offend" homosexuals.

I've genuinely never stumbled across the colloquialism 'ace' before in regards to asexuality, I was reading the thread responses completely lost as to what 'ace' meant other than being synonymous with 'cool.'

Edit - didn't mean to quote

Every gay person I've ever met has told me they were born the way they are. Why do you think you know better?