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Is rest mass the same as rest energy? Physics AS level

Is it? or is it?

Also how would I calculate the rest mass of a neutral pion using values from the data sheet?
Original post by Someboady
Is it? or is it?

Also how would I calculate the rest mass of a neutral pion using values from the data sheet?


Rest energy is technically 0, mass can never be zero
Reply 2
Original post by ComputerMaths97
Rest energy is technically 0, mass can never be zero


According to the data sheet... the rest energy in MeV is only zero for photons and neutrinos? :/ How would I calculate the rest mass of a neutral pion using the data sheet?
Reply 3
Original post by Someboady
Is it? or is it?

Also how would I calculate the rest mass of a neutral pion using values from the data sheet?


Does your data sheet have the rest energy of a neutral pion on it? Otherwise, there's no way of calculating that without a fair bit of additional info.

Can you post the exact question and/or a photo of the relevant bit of your datasheet?

Erest=mrestc2 E_rest = m_rest c^2
Reply 4
Original post by lerjj
Does your data sheet have the rest energy of a neutral pion on it? Otherwise, there's no way of calculating that without a fair bit of additional info.

Can you post the exact question and/or a photo of the relevant bit of your datasheet?

Erest=mrestc2 E_rest = m_rest c^2


It does tell us the rest energy of a neutral pion.. the rest energy is: 134.972 MeV
Does mass=energy??
Reply 6
Original post by thefatone
Does mass=energy??

Ah, you can use E = mc^2 but I have no idea how to use it..
I assume you make rest energy = mass * speed of light in a vacuum ^ 2
i.e. for a neutral pion, 134.972*10^6= rest mass * (3.00*10^8)^2
so rest mass can be calculated
Original post by Someboady
Ah, you can use E = mc^2 but I have no idea how to use it..
I assume you make rest energy = mass * speed of light in a vacuum ^ 2
i.e. for a neutral pion, 134.972*10^6= rest mass * (3.00*10^8)^2
so rest mass can be calculated


lol i don't even know enough about physics(even though i take it for A level) to answer this.

I think the theoretical answer is yes because that's how photons have no mass but carry energy?
but for your exam let's just say they're not xD
Reply 8
Original post by thefatone
lol i don't even know enough about physics(even though i take it for A level) to answer this.

I think the theoretical answer is yes because that's how photons have no mass but carry energy?
but for your exam let's just say they're not xD


Hahah i guess we're both learning xD

I think photons are a special case that E=mc^2 doesnt apply to
Original post by Someboady
Hahah i guess we're both learning xD

I think photons are a special case that E=mc^2 doesnt apply to


i have no idea (insert not sure emoti)
Reply 10
Original post by Someboady
Hahah i guess we're both learning xD

I think photons are a special case that E=mc^2 doesnt apply to


Photons have no rest mass and no rest energy. This is slightly pointless however, because photons cannot be at rest.

Which is because their rest mass is 0. Just avoid thinking about photons too much. Their energy is all kinetic, not rest energy.
Reply 11
Original post by Someboady
Ah, you can use E = mc^2 but I have no idea how to use it..
I assume you make rest energy = mass * speed of light in a vacuum ^ 2
i.e. for a neutral pion, 134.972*10^6= rest mass * (3.00*10^8)^2
so rest mass can be calculated


This is correct.
Reply 12
Original post by lerjj
This is correct.


Thanks a bunch!! :smile:

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