Government to introduce Sharia compliant student loans for Muslims

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In a few years, we'll have halal cars, halal flats, halal roads, halal schools, halal computers, etc.

Black cars with tinted window- halal cars
Female/male only hotels/floors/flats - halal apartments.
Female/male only train carriges, bus- halal roads
There already religious schools or, male/female only schools - halal schools
Special safety programmes that doesn't allow kids to go on unislamic websites, porn or music - halal computers.

Reply 21

lNurl

Original post by BaconandSauce

It will included in your fees to cover the extra cost that administrating this will incur.

as we know nothing in life is free and running 2 systems in parallel with have extra costs and these will be paid by everyone.

hmmm that sounds bad, but on the other hand, I somehow think that uni might help muslims to become more integrated.

I know government wouldn't do it if there is no benefit attached to it.

Reply 22

Good bloke

Original post by Josb

In a few years, we'll have halal cars, halal flats, halal roads, halal schools, halal computers, etc.

Don't forget the need for a camel lane on rural roads.

Reply 23

BaconandSauce

Original post by lNurl

hmmm that sounds bad, but on the other hand, I somehow think that uni might help muslims to become more integrated.

I know government wouldn't do it if there is no benefit attached to it.

there is nothing but Muslims preventing themselves from being integrated in the UK.

and as some one has already confirmed most Muslim terrorist in the UK have been highly educated.

Reply 24

BaconandSauce

Original post by Good bloke

Don't forget the need for a camel lane on rural roads.

halal camel insurance :biggrin:

Reply 25

lNurl

Original post by BaconandSauce

there is nothing but Muslims preventing themselves from being integrated in the UK.

and as some one has already confirmed most Muslim terrorist in the UK have been highly educated.

I don't personally like linking terrorism and muslims together, and I don't like to think as "most muslims terrorist".... we don't know for sure, there are more terrorist in the whole world (including UK) that might not been degree educated, do we know exact ratio?

I think, (my opinion) like you said too, muslims are the only way of integration, there are lots of young muslims ready to integrate but maybe pressurised/brainwashed/forced by family and friends. Maybe they want to go to uni, and their parents not allowing them to take loans because of it's unislamic way of paying back? This way, new generation of muslims will be more open minded, will see things form different angle.

As I said, I don't think people in power are stupid or love sharia to every bit, or they feel pressurised, nobody/nothing can pressurise UK to do things that it doesn't want to.

Maybe it's peaceful way of keeping us safe from terrorist? Government can invest more money on military with will have shared financial impact too, would you rather prefer muslim kids go to uni, or go to unknows crazy mosques to learn how to blow themselves up?

As I said it's all my opinion, government could introduce exactly same type of payment/rules for this new loan, and called it "British Choice Loan", nobody would judge it :smile:

Reply 26

cambio wechsel

Original post by BaconandSauce

running 2 systems in parallel with have extra costs and these will be paid by everyone.

and every university refectory in the land will tonight offer a vegetarian option while economies of scale would suggest is as cheaper to do only the fish and chips.

This is something or nothing, a naming convention.

Reply 27

BaconandSauce

Original post by cambio wechsel

I have no issues with people wanting something different.

I do have issues with them expecting me to pay for it.

Reply 28

champ_mc99

Original post by The_Opinion

Not really, talking about education being a solution to terrorism / non-integration is utter nonsense that the left come out with. Many terrorists have been highly educated and even attending Western universities, they are simply not related.

I personally think education will be better despite this. From what I see most people who want Sharia, ban homosexuality and so forth have been brainwashed by senior Islamists who have higher authority due to having better education. I think if more people are educated, they will be less dependent on what the radical but educated Islamist think and will be able to think for themselves.

Integration will work both ways. Not saying it's a certainty but a more likely case is the Islamist will become more tolerant to the Westerners and the bigoted Westerners will become more tolerant to the Muslims.

This seems like the only suitable option imho. I mean "deporting all refugees" is hardly going to cut it.

(edited 7 years ago)

Reply 29

Josb

Original post by lNurl

hmmm that sounds bad, but on the other hand, I somehow think that uni might help muslims to become more integrated.

I know government wouldn't do it if there is no benefit attached to it.

They won't be more integrated if the country changes to look like their homeland. They must change.

I refuse to alter my way of life for immigrants and their offspring.

Reply 30

BaconandSauce

Original post by Josb

They won't be more integrated if the country changes to look like their homeland.

This does seems to be the case

Rather than trying to change to fit in they expect us to conform to them

This is not 'integration'

Reply 31

BaconandSauce

Original post by champ_mc99

From what I see most people who want Sharia, ban homosexuality and so forth have been brainwashed by senior Islamists who have higher authority due to having better education.

You are kidding right? most ISOC's are full of intolerance and hatred for anything 'not Islamic' (inf act I think a fair few terrorists and ISIS fighters at one time or another belonged to a uni ISOC.)

Problem is until Muslims mix with the wider communities this will always be an issue,

Reply 32

shahanne

its just the government trying to be more inclusive of others. including others doesnt mean u will be excluded
after WWII people from the commonwealth were manipulated into coming to this country to 'rebuild' britain so if you are going to blame someone for this multiculturalism, guess whose fault it is?
- Shahanne's older sister x

Reply 33

shahanne

Original post by Josb

They won't be more integrated if the country changes to look like their homeland. They must change.

I refuse to alter my way of life for immigrants and their offspring.

Have you done a RS GCSE by chance?
If so, what religions did you study?

Reply 34

shahanne

Original post by BaconandSauce

maybe if the wider society actually got rid of their prejudices and accepted them this wouldn't be a problem

this isn;t a one way thing; you can't accept Muslims yourself how do you expect them to tolerate us?

Reply 35

BaconandSauce

Original post by shahanne

Odd that it's only muslims who have this issue out of the myriad of other cultures and faiths that have made their home in the UK

But as we know this issue of integration isn't restricted to just the UK

Reply 36

champ_mc99

Original post by BaconandSauce

You have no evidence for that. I admit quite a few are though. But if we get more Muslims into education, we'll get more that can think for themselves and be able to set up moderate ISOCs or challenge the intolerant ones themselves.

And there's a higher chance more Muslims will mix with the wider community if they are given education than not.

Reply 37

Josb

Original post by shahanne

Have you done a RS GCSE by chance?
If so, what religions did you study?

I didn't study in the UK and wouldn't have studied RS anyway.

Reply 38

Josb

Original post by shahanne

I will not accept Muslims as long as they hate gays and Jews, and consider women as inferior beings. Deal with it.

Reply 39

champ_mc99

Original post by Omen96

I wouldn't be surprised if they get charity while the rest of us get loans. It's always one thing for them and another for the rest of us.

What happened to coming to a country and living by that country's laws? Oh right, they are Muslim so they have higher preference over the national laws. We are seeing halal become the main food in our schools and public institutions, we are seeing halal slaughter instead of our own choice of slaughter, we are seeing sharia practices arise in Muslim communities, we are seeing Islamic infiltration in our schools, isn't multiculturalism just great!