What laws do the Brexiteers want to change?

“Our membership of the EU prevents us being able to change huge swaths of law…”

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Michael Gove says:



http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/e7b2d4d4-daea-11e5-98fd-06d75973fe09.html#axzz493llcXli

We keep hearing these kinds of things from the LEAVE campaign, and how they will rid us of red tape - but no one has anything concrete to say about it.

I know Gove and other Tories want to get rid of the Human Rights Act, and take the UK out of the European Convention on Human Rights - but that isn't a treaty of the EU anyway.

While I understand that the EU generates legislation and red tape, I'm not really sure I believe that a standalone UK government with no EU oversight would be any better. Government likes rules and regulation - left to their own devices they seem to generate enough. Look at the measures announced in the Queen's speech:

Digital Economy Bill
Modern Transport Bill
Neighbourhood Planning and Infrastructure Bill
Local Growth and Jobs Bill
Better Markets Bill
Bus Services Bill
NHS (Overseas Visitors Chanrging) Bill
Pensions Bill
Children and Social Work Bill
Education for All Bill
Higher Education and Research Bill
Prison and Courts Reform Bill
National Citizen Service Bill
Lifetime Savings Bill
Finance Bill
Small Charitable Donations Bill
Bill of Rights
Counter-extremism and Safeguarding Bill
Criminal Finances Bill
Cultural Property (Armed Conflicts) Bill
Wales Bill

None of these are imposed by the EU.

So, er, what laws are they?

The right to have our own country. We can't fix our country when it isn't our country.

Michael Gove says:



http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/e7b2d4d4-daea-11e5-98fd-06d75973fe09.html#axzz493llcXli

We keep hearing these kinds of things from the LEAVE campaign, and how they will rid us of red tape - but no one has anything concrete to say about it.

I know Gove and other Tories want to get rid of the Human Rights Act, and take the UK out of the European Convention on Human Rights - but that isn't a treaty of the EU anyway.

While I understand that the EU generates legislation and red tape, I'm not really sure I believe that a standalone UK government with no EU oversight would be any better. Government likes rules and regulation - left to their own devices they seem to generate enough. Look at the measures announced in the Queen's speech:

Digital Economy Bill
Modern Transport Bill
Neighbourhood Planning and Infrastructure Bill
Local Growth and Jobs Bill
Better Markets Bill
Bus Services Bill
NHS (Overseas Visitors Chanrging) Bill
Pensions Bill
Children and Social Work Bill
Education for All Bill
Higher Education and Research Bill
Prison and Courts Reform Bill
National Citizen Service Bill
Lifetime Savings Bill
Finance Bill
Small Charitable Donations Bill
Bill of Rights
Counter-extremism and Safeguarding Bill
Criminal Finances Bill
Cultural Property (Armed Conflicts) Bill
Wales Bill

None of these are imposed by the EU.

the bills are all needed what are eu bill like curved bananas are not saleable bananas and stuff like that mostly just rubbish that makes no sense to any normal person

I believe the curved banana law never really existed. At least not in the way ridiculed by the popular press (who have such a good track record for reporting facts)

But when you think about some of the EU regulation, it makes perfect sense. If you have a single economy, you have to have rules about what constitutes say chocolate. Otherwise you will get companies creating something cheap and nasty and passing it off as chocolate when it isn't. It is common sense. Leaving the EU won't change that sort of legislation and UK companies selling into the EU will still be bound by the EU courts, just as UK bankers appear to be bound by US courts.

I like the way you have listed them all, one per line, to make the psychological impact greater. Perhaps a more truthful method would have been to compare the number of Laws passed by each.

Also, you haven't addressed what may be a simple answer over here: perhaps we have more say democratically over the Laws passed in Britain then the ones passed in the EU?

well there a lot of stupid stuff the eu step up in their favour and our expensive and so we could save the economy before it's all gold bars and carbine rifles

The right to have our own country. We can't fix our country when it isn't our country.

By my understanding, they really want this "British Bill of Rights" which would entrench our already human rights from the HRA (1998). They don't like the fact that Parliament has in effect delegated some power to the EU in this respect. However I don't personally see what difference it's really going to make - seems pretty drastic.

well there a lot of stupid stuff the eu step up in their favour and our expensive and so we could save the economy before it's all gold bars and carbine rifles

The HRA stems from the European Convention on Human Rights, it isn't EU legislation, it's a totally separate treaty obligation. Many states in Europe are signatories to the ECHR but not members of the EU. In fact I think I am correct in saying that the only European country that is not a member is Belorussia. Take a look at the map on this page for the obvious hole:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_states_of_the_Council_of_Europe

But it isn't stupid stuff. If you want a common market, you have to have rules that ensure a level playing field. Of course, if we don't want to be part of the common market that is fine, but I reckon most British manufacturers export more goods than they sell in the UK.